Random Rotation Reevaluation?

[[fr31ns]Karrde]

Triple R?  I think so!  Ok, so as usual from me - map complaints.  But not the usual type.  While I've no problem with random rotation (bugs notwithstanding), I think we need to do some stuff about whats on there and put out a new map pack.  First, I think we need to make a list of maps that are really bad and were verbally abused by a large group of people during the TFT where they were tested (cp_avante, I'm looking at you).  Second, when we've got an official list, can we update the map pack to reflect what is actually being used on the server?

[CaffeinePowered]

I posted the official list in the other thread, random rotation did not work, so we are actually on a fixed rotation, which is also listed in the other thread as well.

The problem with the random rotation was it was properly setting the nextmap to a map off the list, but on map change, it would go to the normal mapcycle file and override the plugin for whatever reason.

[[fr31ns]Karrde]

Well, either way, I think we need to evaluate the current list because there's a lot of bad maps (not just by my own statement but by collective agreement from TFT) and maps not in the map pack.  And there's Science.  I hate you people for hating science

[Geoff]

What?  You can go wrong with avanti?  WHAT HAVE THEY DONE WITH YOU MY DEAR AVANTI ;-;

[[fr31ns]Karrde]

besides making it in all dustbowl/gpit/whatever textures, splitting it into stages, only having the first 2 caps even somewhat resemble avanti, lots of dead end tunnels on the second stage, a very long second stage with extremely convoluted paths and everyone - including RED - screaming "WTF Where is the second cap?!"

[Geoff]

Karrde link=topic=1811.msg50403#msg50403 date=1227047092]
besides making it in all dustbowl/gpit/whatever textures, splitting it into stages, only having the first 2 caps even somewhat resemble avanti, lots of dead end tunnels on the second stage, a very long second stage with extremely convoluted paths and everyone - including RED - screaming "WTF Where is the second cap?!"

D:


avanti_b1 is almost an exact replica of the original, spawn turrets and all.  This new one needs to die for it insults the avanti name.

[CaffeinePowered]

[quote author=[fr31ns]Karrde link=topic=1811.msg50403#msg50403 date=1227047092]
besides making it in all dustbowl/gpit/whatever textures, splitting it into stages, only having the first 2 caps even somewhat resemble avanti, lots of dead end tunnels on the second stage, a very long second stage with extremely convoluted paths and everyone - including RED - screaming "WTF Where is the second cap?!"

D:


avanti_b1 is almost an exact replica of the original, spawn turrets and all.  This new one needs to die for it insults the avanti name.



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avanti_b1 also crashes like 50% of people and boots people constantly for snapshot overloads

[Geoff]

[quote author=Geoff link=topic=1811.msg50502#msg50502 date=1227126182]
[quote author=[fr31ns]Karrde link=topic=1811.msg50403#msg50403 date=1227047092]
besides making it in all dustbowl/gpit/whatever textures, splitting it into stages, only having the first 2 caps even somewhat resemble avanti, lots of dead end tunnels on the second stage, a very long second stage with extremely convoluted paths and everyone - including RED - screaming "WTF Where is the second cap?!"

D:


avanti_b1 is almost an exact replica of the original, spawn turrets and all.  This new one needs to die for it insults the avanti name.



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avanti_b1 also crashes like 50% of people and boots people constantly for snapshot overloads
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i know  :'( :'(

[CaffeinePowered]

heres the current map rotation again in case anyone wondered...

dom_complex_b4c
ctf_chaos
cp_aqua
tc_meridian_b2
cp_boulder_v2
arena_starship_v1
cp_desertfortress
ctf_geothermal_b2
cp_dustbowl
ctf_launchzone
cp_fallout
ctf_turbine
cp_freight_b3
ktf_blockfort
cp_junction_v2
pl_badwater
cp_labor
pl_hoodoo_b1a
cp_oilfield
arena_watchtower_b3
cp_stag
ctf_mach4
cp_steel
ctf_cancer_beta5

[Vlambo]

I think we need some Steamroll in there

[Wedge]

heres the current map rotation again in case anyone wondered...

dom_complex_b4c
ctf_chaos
cp_aqua
tc_meridian_b2
cp_boulder_v2
arena_starship_v1
cp_desertfortress
ctf_geothermal_b2
cp_dustbowl
ctf_launchzone
cp_fallout
ctf_turbine
cp_freight_b3
ktf_blockfort
cp_junction_v2
pl_badwater
cp_labor
pl_hoodoo_b1a
cp_oilfield
arena_watchtower_b3
cp_stag
ctf_mach4
cp_steel
ctf_cancer_beta5

Still can't be arsed to put Freight at final?

[CaffeinePowered]

Still can't be arsed to put Freight at final?

Just keep reminding me, cause I <3 freight

[[fr31ns]Karrde]

Did you pare that list down by removing stuff recently?  If not, that's not the actual rotation.  ctf_face and cp_avante, and a few others are on there as of a say 2 days ago and they're not on that list...I could actual;ly get behind 95% of that list, though it'd be nice to have dbowl and gpit.

[CaffeinePowered]

Karrde link=topic=1811.msg50588#msg50588 date=1227155618]
Did you pare that list down by removing stuff recently?  If not, that's not the actual rotation.  ctf_face and cp_avante, and a few others are on there as of a say 2 days ago and they're not on that list...I could actual;ly get behind 95% of that list, though it'd be nice to have dbowl and gpit.

If they came up they got voted or an admin auto-set them, cause I have not changed the list, save for removing atlantic for crashing the server

[Wedge]

Goddamn, I like almost every one of those maps.  Now if only there would be people on the server anymore =<

Also where did Science2 go? ;_;

[Honest]

Goddamn, I like almost every one of those maps.  Now if only there would be people on the server anymore =<

Also where did Science2 go? ;_;

To hell where it and Aqua belong.

[Dave]

needs dustbowl, its just as good as any of the custom maps, cant pick on it just for being stock.

[ribozyme]

Can you post a list of EVERYTHING that is on the server grouped by what is on rotation/rtv/admin only if it's not too much trouble?

[CaffeinePowered]

Can you post a list of EVERYTHING that is on the server grouped by what is on rotation/rtv/admin only if it's not too much trouble?

I already did that in the other thread....swear to god you fuckers are too lazy to go back one page and look at the thread...

RTV and Random Rotation List -

arena_badlands.bsp
arena_goldtooth.bsp
arena_granary.bsp
arena_lumberyard.bsp
arena_mach2.bsp
arena_phobos_base1.bsp
arena_ravine.bsp
arena_starship_v1.bsp
arena_watchtower_b3.bsp
arena_well.bsp
arena_wildwest_b1.bsp
cp_aqua.bsp
cp_arnold_b3.bsp
cp_avante_b1.bsp
cp_boulder_v2.bsp
cp_castle4.bsp
cp_corporation_b3.bsp
cp_cowpath_b3.bsp
cp_desertfortress.bsp
cp_dustbowl.bsp
cp_fallout.bsp
cp_freight_b3.bsp
cp_gravelpit.bsp
cp_junction_v2.bsp
cp_labor.bsp
cp_observatory_b1.bsp
cp_oilfield.bsp
cp_orange_cross2_v2.bsp
cp_orange_x4.bsp
cp_orange_z_b2.bsp
cp_overflow_2.bsp
cp_raiden.bsp
cp_roswell.bsp
cp_science2.bsp
cp_secret_base.bsp
cp_stag.bsp
cp_starship_b3.bsp
cp_steel.bsp
cp_studio_rc4.bsp
cp_warpath2.bsp
cp_well.bsp
ctf_2docks.bsp
ctf_2fort.bsp
ctf_cancer_beta5.bsp
ctf_chaos.bsp
ctf_convoy_v2.bsp
ctf_epicenter2_b2.bsp
ctf_escherhaus.bsp
ctf_face.bsp
ctf_fishy_b4.bsp
ctf_freezers_v2.bsp
ctf_geothermal_b2.bsp
ctf_impact2.bsp
ctf_launchzone.bsp
ctf_mach4.bsp
ctf_moonwalk_v2.bsp
ctf_npire_v3.bsp
ctf_scorpion_v4.bsp
ctf_spacebase_b1a.bsp
ctf_stronghold_b5.bsp
ctf_switch.bsp
ctf_turbine.bsp
ctf_waterworks.bsp
ctf_well.bsp
ctf_well2.bsp
dom_canalzone.bsp
dom_complex_b4c.bsp
ktf_blockfort.bsp
ktf_chemistry_v1.bsp
ktf_innercity_v2.bsp
pl_badwater.bsp
pl_dbheights.bsp
pl_donut_b1.bsp
pl_dustbowl_b4.bsp
pl_goldrush.bsp
pl_haywood_beta4.bsp
pl_hoodoo_b1a.bsp
tc_hydro.bsp
tc_meridian_b2.bsp
tc_spectre_b2b.bsp

[Wedge]

[quote author=Wedge link=topic=1811.msg50599#msg50599 date=1227159963]
Goddamn, I like almost every one of those maps.  Now if only there would be people on the server anymore =<

Also where did Science2 go? ;_;

To hell where it and Aqua belong.
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I really don't find it funny anymore that people don't like Science2 when there's no goddamn good reason for it.  The design of the map is phenomenally dynamic (you can access the 2nd, or even 1st point without going through the 3rd), it's extremely well balanced classwise (maybe Sniper isn't that great, but Snipers are fgts), and it looks and runs excellent.  Bitching about it being "confusing" is just juvenile at this point, if you don't understand the map layout by now, you are simply mentally deficient.  So is there any genuine reason people don't like it?