Vennora

[demonspork]

Talk about Vennora here. If it gets off topic again ban hammer shall fall.

someone repost those pictures and maps of Vennora to start out with please.

[Dr. Zaius]

Thank you, Demon.

Some quick rules about living in Vennora, so our lives are happier and easier:

1. Please stay indoors at night, the region's creeper problem is out of hand. Along with this rule, please be aware of subrules:
1a-Stay away from creepers.
1b-Don't explode creepers.
1c-Patch all creeper holes completely, DO NOT leave creeper damage unrepaired. If you need the materials, they can most likely be found within our primary building.
1d-Only kill creepers with a bow and arrows. Do not engage them any closer than 5 blocks and be aware of your surroundings when going outside.

2. Please contribute. If you go on a mining expedition or similar venture, give some back to the community. We may not all be doing the same activities, so having a surplus of materials is extra helpful. The most important items to keep in stock are iron, coal, and wood. All chests in the primary building are community chests.

3. Please participate. We have two farms and food that need to be processed regularly in order to keep up with healing damage for 9+ people. If you have time, cook some pork or harvest some wheat.

4. Building is allowed in any area, but before building make sure you notify either myself or Tortilla. If something is built without our knowing, we may destroy it.

For the Commune.


Some people we have running around/living with us in Vennora:

Myself
Tortilla
Sogo
Whendilin
MasterGH
Nickasummers
Ekarus
Maxhenley
Stein
Wolfwood
Demonspork

A few pictures, all shown in the delightfully sexy JohnSmith texture pack found at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic....=johnsmith because I can't html.

Our primary settlement in the southwest corner of our land


The roof, for our nature enthusiasts


Commune Tower and The Plateau


The bridge across the canal


Our spiffy new port, built by Ekarus

[Didzo]

I say that the floors of all structures should be glass with lava pits below them and lava moats around their perimeter, creating a completely safe and unique lighting and mob defense solution.

[Dr. Zaius]

I say that the floors of all structures should be glass with lava pits below them and lava moats around their perimeter, creating a completely safe and unique lighting and mob defense solution.

That's a good idea, but it would be way too easy to grief.

[Didzo]

[quote author=Didzo link=topic=5294.msg190191#msg190191 date=1293698298]
I say that the floors of all structures should be glass with lava pits below them and lava moats around their perimeter, creating a completely safe and unique lighting and mob defense solution.

That's a good idea, but it would be way too easy to grief.
[/quote]

Griefing is a lie and anyone who says otherwise is a terrorist.

[Gump]

[quote author=Dr. Zaius link=topic=5294.msg190194#msg190194 date=1293700486]
[quote author=Didzo link=topic=5294.msg190191#msg190191 date=1293698298]
I say that the floors of all structures should be glass with lava pits below them and lava moats around their perimeter, creating a completely safe and unique lighting and mob defense solution.

That's a good idea, but it would be way too easy to grief.
[/quote]

Griefing is a lie and anyone who says otherwise is a terrorist.


[/quote]

[Dr. Zaius]

Stop the quote train

Construction on the plateau is nearing completion. After it's finished, there will be available spaces for free building for those who want to.

Along with finishing that up, we'll also need a small team of people to go underneath the plateau to neutralize the rampant mob spawning issue until a proper machine can be built to harvest the mass amounts of monsters.

[DragonEkarus]

...until a proper machine can be built to harvest the mass amounts of monsters.

Due to the way spawning works now mob killing machines barely work.

In the current version, the 0,0 exploit no longer works, and the bail-out clause has been removed entirely. The spawnable region is now 17x17 chunks, mobs spawn in packs of up to 12, and to the best of my knowledge, slimes don't spawn naturally anymore.

Lightstone, pumpkins, or lighting the whole bloody region (Which is somewhere between 12 and 24 torches/light sources per chunk assuming no obstructions at all.) is the only not easily grefiable solution.

Rule 1 especially applies to Lode. This guy is a creeper magnet.

Lastly, there's no variable in the number picker that increases or decreases the chance of a particular type of mob spawning at night. (With the exception when it choses if a spawned spider is a spider or a spider/archer ...which really isn't increasing or decreasing the chances of a particular mob spawning...)

[Surf314]

Watching this from the outside is really weird. I should probably get this game.

[nickasummers]

ekarus, you clearly misunderstood part of that thread. Spawners are still viable, it is just that the ideal design has changed and they are a bit slower. The structure you built is actually a good shell for a "modern" spawner if it is modified a bit. Im going to draw up a schematic so we can get a few people to build it with considerations for the new system. One floor, subdivided with multiple tracks leading to a killer in order to leave a large spawnable area and maximize killing speed so more can spawn.

[Kirby]

[Didzo]

Watching this from the outside is really weird. I should probably get this game.

It has the potential of releasing and amplifying your latent autism powers.

Though you should be fine if you just stick to living off the land with only a humble shelter and mine by spelunking as opposed to strip mining.

[Dr. Zaius]

[quote author=Dr. Zaius link=topic=5294.msg190198#msg190198 date=1293704199]
...until a proper machine can be built to harvest the mass amounts of monsters.

Due to the way spawning works now mob killing machines barely work.

[/quote]

Oh I don't think we'll have too much of a problem. There is a ton of mobs in there. I sent GrimReaper in there last night, he stepped in, saw what was in there, freaked out and started running around aggroing everything. Funniest 20 seconds of my week.

[Stein]

You need pics of Dragon's bridge, Wolfwood's bridge, and Wolfwood's and my houses.



Also Demon's nature shack thing.


Oh, and mob spawners can still work.  The one I built in my singleplayer works fine, just slow.

Mobs don't spawn within 25 blocks of you in all directions, so the spawning area should start at 25 blocks out from a "central point."
Mobs don't spawn outside of 80 blocks from a player
Within that 160x160 block square, a more or less constant amount of mobs will spawn, so a giant indoor room is more or less necessary to prevent mobs from spawning in caves, where they can't be "utilized."
Water flows prevent spawning from what I can tell, so they should be used sparingly outside of the 50x50 block square, but they should be used to help mobs come closer to the killing section.


My singleplayer spawner:

collection room:
player stands on central point, ladder starting one block up from the floor directly in front of the player
collection room has (6 or 7) spaces to either side of the central point empty
room has two-high glass wall border (i believe on "ring 7" from the player), leaving a space of air above the floor (below the glass) for water to come under
behind the glass wall is a "killing trench."  The top 3rd/4th layer of the trench (4 or 5 blocks deep), NOT THE TOP LAYER, is where the water sources are.  My trench can't fit spiders, so I use cacti above the trench, but for a new version I would probably try out a two-block wide trench, to drown spiders as well.

Spawning Floor:
You want the spawning floor to be a level above the trench, so that mobs forced into the trench plummet and sink into the trench water, as opposed to gently landing on it and swimming on the surface.

I have two layers of water current to each side of the spawner (I technically only have one side of the spawning floor cleared out...).  The first layer of water sources should be on the 8th block, so that the water doesn't flow over the end of the floor and into the trench.
The second layer of water is one block higher, and another 8 blocks back, so that this water flow doesn't flow over the edge, but stops right at the edge of its section.

I believe more monsters spawn deeper under ground, so have the collection room on layer 10ish (so that slimes don't spawn in your room and kill you).  I have a feeling that multiple floors would work fine.

[Dr. Zaius]

The Plateau and tower are finished, so building is open on the plateau now. There are 8 spaces for buildings, let me or Tortilla know if you want to build there.

[Dr. Zaius]

The Plateau and tower are finished, so building is open on the plateau now. There are 8 spaces for buildings, let me or Tortilla know if you want to build there.

The server crashed and reverted apparently, so some work was lost on the plateau. I have finished once more, and it is ready for open building.

[VeraLapsa]

[demonspork]

That pig is photobombing with its anus

[Kirby]

really lame leaf texture

[Dr. Zaius]

The new

well

I don't know what to call it

but it's just about finished.

Come to Vennora.