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05-08-2009, 05:04 PM

My bothermoard is a 775 LGA socket with an Intel Pentium Dual Core 65 nm 1.6 GHz E2140

I want to upgrade to this.

Will I be able to make the jump?
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05-08-2009, 05:12 PM

Yes, but you realize you can oc your CPU, on a 30$ air CPU cooler, to the equivilent of the E7xxx's? In fact iirc your CPU was the best C2D to overclock in the C2D lineup back when the 6xxx's were the top.

If you're going to up from one C2D to another, the only thing that I'd even bother spending money on is something in the E8xxx.


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05-08-2009, 05:27 PM

(05-08-2009, 05:12 PM)Blues link Wrote: Yes, but you realize you can oc your CPU, on a 30$ air CPU cooler, to the equivilent of the E7xxx's? In fact iirc your CPU was the best C2D to overclock in the C2D lineup back when the 6xxx's were the top.

If you're going to up from one C2D to another, the only thing that I'd even bother spending money on is something in the E8xxx.
C2D definition plz

And I don't know how to overclock...
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05-08-2009, 05:38 PM

C2D = Core 2 Duo, tard.

Overclocking is now relatively easy, you can do it through your bios/various other ways, just google up on overclocking Core 2 Duo's on your specific motherboard and you should come up with some pretty easy to understand guides. Remember to get more than the stock fan if you don't already, and you'll need some thermal paste like Arctic Silver. Removing/applying new thermal paste and the fan isn't hard, and you'd have to do it regardless if you got a new CPU, so no biggie.


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05-08-2009, 06:14 PM

(05-08-2009, 05:38 PM)Blues link Wrote: C2D = Core 2 Duo, tard.

Overclocking is now relatively easy, you can do it through your bios/various other ways, just google up on overclocking Core 2 Duo's on your specific motherboard and you should come up with some pretty easy to understand guides. Remember to get more than the stock fan if you don't already, and you'll need some thermal paste like Arctic Silver. Removing/applying new thermal paste and the fan isn't hard, and you'd have to do it regardless if you got a new CPU, so no biggie.
To be honest, I have a feeling that buying a new one might be a bit easier. Sad

Thanks for the help though, I'll probably try overclocking the new one once I can afford it.


Disregard this, I might try overclocking, considering the results.
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05-08-2009, 06:36 PM

(05-08-2009, 06:14 PM)Karf the Walrus link Wrote: [quote author=Blues link=topic=2838.msg81416#msg81416 date=1241822282]
C2D = Core 2 Duo, tard.

Overclocking is now relatively easy, you can do it through your bios/various other ways, just google up on overclocking Core 2 Duo's on your specific motherboard and you should come up with some pretty easy to understand guides. Remember to get more than the stock fan if you don't already, and you'll need some thermal paste like Arctic Silver. Removing/applying new thermal paste and the fan isn't hard, and you'd have to do it regardless if you got a new CPU, so no biggie.
To be honest, I have a feeling that buying a new one might be a bit easier. Sad

Thanks for the help though, I'll probably try overclocking the new one once I can afford it.


Disregard this, I might try overclocking, considering the results.
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Found a good guide, or need help looking? I'm taking it you found something that explains it relatively simply since you changed your mind.


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05-08-2009, 07:57 PM

(05-08-2009, 06:36 PM)Blues link Wrote: [quote author=Karf the Walrus link=topic=2838.msg81427#msg81427 date=1241824495]
[quote author=Blues link=topic=2838.msg81416#msg81416 date=1241822282]
C2D = Core 2 Duo, tard.

Overclocking is now relatively easy, you can do it through your bios/various other ways, just google up on overclocking Core 2 Duo's on your specific motherboard and you should come up with some pretty easy to understand guides. Remember to get more than the stock fan if you don't already, and you'll need some thermal paste like Arctic Silver. Removing/applying new thermal paste and the fan isn't hard, and you'd have to do it regardless if you got a new CPU, so no biggie.
To be honest, I have a feeling that buying a new one might be a bit easier. Sad

Thanks for the help though, I'll probably try overclocking the new one once I can afford it.


Disregard this, I might try overclocking, considering the results.
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Found a good guide, or need help looking? I'm taking it you found something that explains it relatively simply since you changed your mind.
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05-08-2009, 08:42 PM

Hmm... that's the same processor I have... hadn't looked into overclocking, but perhaps now I will...


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05-09-2009, 12:04 PM

the only problem, is your computer an OEM machine or retail
if you got it built by dell or HP or something, you're not gonna be able to OC
if it's custom build you most likely will be able to.


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05-09-2009, 12:16 PM

Really? That's a bummer then. My computer was store-bought.
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05-10-2009, 12:21 AM

Oh god I completely forgot about that. I'm used to only dealing with people with custom comps, store-bought didn't even cross my mind. =\ You technically can overclock a storebought, but the amount of work involved is ridiculous, you're better off just upgrading CPUs.


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05-10-2009, 10:42 AM

(05-09-2009, 12:16 PM)Karf the Walrus link Wrote: Really? That's a bummer then. My computer was store-bought.
yeah, most computer sellers like to lock down OC so some idiot doesnt stumble upon the option and go, I want my processor to go OVER 9000!!!
and then it dies in 3 days and they call tech support
and its still under warrenty

in order to OC most OEM machines you would have to get a modded bios chip or some shit. so your gonna have to pretty much count that out, unfortunatly. i know my Pentium 4 could live even longer if i could get her on water cooling and go for 6 ghz


(04-09-2013, 11:24 PM)Dr. Zaius link Wrote:well i'm not really understanding how it's faster internet. and like google just magically rolls outs this stuff and it's 100 times faster than my internet? why? that doesn't set off any alarms to anyone?

(11-07-2012, 11:15 PM)at0m link Wrote:I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE OVERINDULGED ON RUM AND COKES AT OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE

THE BARTENDER WAS BRAGGING ABOUT BEING A LEFTY. I SAID I WAS A RIGHTY, BUT THAT I COULD UNDO A BRA WITH JUST MY LEFT HAND. ASKED HER IF THAT COUNTED AS BEING AMBIDEXTROUS. SHE SAID 'NOT REALLY'. tHEN HANDED ME ANOTHER DRINK.

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05-10-2009, 11:48 AM

(05-10-2009, 10:42 AM)zaneyard link Wrote: [quote author=Karf the Walrus link=topic=2838.msg81538#msg81538 date=1241889384]
Really? That's a bummer then. My computer was store-bought.
yeah, most computer sellers like to lock down OC so some idiot doesnt stumble upon the option and go, I want my processor to go OVER 9000!!!
and then it dies in 3 days and they call tech support
and its still under warrenty

in order to OC most OEM machines you would have to get a modded bios chip or some shit. so your gonna have to pretty much count that out, unfortunatly. i know my Pentium 4 could live even longer if i could get her on water cooling and go for 6 ghz
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The other problem is the cheapass parts. You can work your way past the OC lockdown, but with the subpar RAM/PSU/Mobos most companies use in their PCs, OCing is just asking to kill your comp. =\

Also, if you're going to upgrade, I'd suggest going with an E8400 over the 7400, simply for the extra longevity. It's worth the little price bump if you've got the cash.


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05-10-2009, 09:12 PM

(05-10-2009, 11:48 AM)Blues link Wrote: [quote author=zaneyard link=topic=2838.msg81683#msg81683 date=1241970157]
[quote author=Karf the Walrus link=topic=2838.msg81538#msg81538 date=1241889384]
Really? That's a bummer then. My computer was store-bought.
yeah, most computer sellers like to lock down OC so some idiot doesnt stumble upon the option and go, I want my processor to go OVER 9000!!!
and then it dies in 3 days and they call tech support
and its still under warrenty

in order to OC most OEM machines you would have to get a modded bios chip or some shit. so your gonna have to pretty much count that out, unfortunatly. i know my Pentium 4 could live even longer if i could get her on water cooling and go for 6 ghz
[/quote]
The other problem is the cheapass parts. You can work your way past the OC lockdown, but with the subpar RAM/PSU/Mobos most companies use in their PCs, OCing is just asking to kill your comp. =\

Also, if you're going to upgrade, I'd suggest going with an E8400 over the 7400, simply for the extra longevity. It's worth the little price bump if you've got the cash.
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I don't have much cash, and I'm not sure that .2 ghz is worth $47 extra.
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05-11-2009, 12:34 AM

In my experience, upgrading to a different processor within the same class is rarely worth the investment, unless you seriously cheaped out when you got the first one.

I typically end up using a system until one or two processor/video card generations later, then upgrade at that time when the same $400 gets you an appreciably better system as opposed to an incremental upgrade that just eats your cash and doesn't produce a noticeable difference in performance.



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05-11-2009, 12:56 AM

(05-11-2009, 12:34 AM)at0m link Wrote: In my experience, upgrading to a different processor within the same class is rarely worth the investment, unless you seriously cheaped out when you got the first one.

I typically end up using a system until one or two processor/video card generations later, then upgrade at that time when the same $400 gets you an appreciably better system as opposed to an incremental upgrade that just eats your cash and doesn't produce a noticeable difference in performance.
I'm probably stuck with this computer until college, and more. And 1.6 GHz isn't going to get me very far.
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05-11-2009, 02:22 AM

e8400 is not an incremental upgrade over the turd he has now.


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05-11-2009, 02:31 AM

(05-11-2009, 02:22 AM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: e8400 is not an incremental upgrade over the turd he has now.
what would you guys recommend jumping to?
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05-11-2009, 03:24 AM

(05-11-2009, 02:31 AM)Karf the Walrus link Wrote: [quote author=CopulatingDuck link=topic=2838.msg81934#msg81934 date=1242026532]
e8400 is not an incremental upgrade over the turd he has now.
what would you guys recommend jumping to?
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I meant that the e8400 is not a small upgrade. It's fantastic, I've had one for a while now and I love it.


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05-11-2009, 04:45 AM

(05-11-2009, 03:24 AM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: I meant that the e8400 is not a small upgrade. It's fantastic, I've had one for a while now and I love it.

That whole range is pretty OC-able from what I've read. My mate's had his E8500 clocked to 3.8 on the stock cooler since the day he bought it.
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