08-04-2008, 12:17 AM
So first of all, I want to thank everyone who came out for TF2: SERIOUS BUSINESS Saturday. I've been getting pretty sick of pubbing it up with teammates who don't cooperate at all, Saturday was completely different. I hope to do it again sometime, namely because of this:
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Teamwork: It works bitches
So I'll provide a bit of a backstory to this. First off, there's BALSAC and TBAG, the resident semi-cereals brbu folks who (hopefully) have been itching to scrim it up lately. Well for one reason or another, BALSAC hasn't managed to have a serious scrim since our first where BALSAC was broken in courtesy of [CN] or something like that, I don't really remember the clan, my mind just blocks the whole fiasco out. The point is, it's been a few weeks, and some of us have gotten antsy. Really antsy. Win or lose, we find TF2 to be a lot more fun when you're playing it competitively, even if only semi-competitively (ie you're not in a league, but you do scrim).
So last Wednesday, we hoped to have a BALSAC vs TBAG practice on Granary. Plans were to have a practice on Wednesday, and a serious rematch on Saturday after both teams had learned their lessons. Unfortunately, things didn't work out like we had hoped; neither team even had enough people present on Saturday for a match; things weren't looking good for the "serious business" guys at all. In the end, we decided to go pub crashing, do a little stacking, and see what we could do as a team anyways. We recruited some more brbu members and told them the plan. We were going to all join a pub and go Red. We'd use Vent so we could talk to each other, and the competitive folks could actually get a chance to work on communication (something we were dearly lacking in our first scrim). We ended up in 2Fort, and the results were pretty clear. 7/11 brb members on Red, working with the rest of the Red team managed to completely dominate the match. That being said, Blu did not go down without a helluva a fight.
Personally, I enjoyed myself immensely. While I love the brb servers, during regular pub hours they don't really offer the kind of gameplay I'm looking for. I enjoy a lot of teamplay (4 out of 12 players doesn't count, sorry), with some discussion of actual tactics to employ during gameplay. I don't enjoy the "oh, you're a good player, I'll uber you and hope the 2 of us can steamroll the entirety of the enemy team, and hope that our dumbass teammates will get the message and push the point." Don't get me wrong, during TFT/FNF, brb is where it's at, but the teamplay just hasn't been there during the regular pub hours, at least imho. All that being said, I'm curious who would be up for a repeat of this sort of thing. I had loads of fun, I'd like to think everyone on my team also enjoyed themselves. If this becomes a weekly sort of thing (where we either find an actual team to scrim, or crash a pub server), who would be interested in participating? There's no commitment, I'm just trying to gauge interest.
And lastly, a few remarks about Saturday. First off, when we won the round, I saw some behavior I do NOT approve of. Do NOT under any circumstances comment with something like "ALL BRBU" or the likes, a "GG" will do. If I remember who it was that said "ALL BRBU" I would reach across the internet and slap you. It shows poor sportsmanship, and it's unbecoming of a semi-serious TF2 player. Furthermore, it reflects extremely poorly on our community; just like the clan that had as of late been crashing the brbu servers and completely dominating, you made us out to be a bunch of team-stacking bullies. During the second round, a few people from [501pts] commented "Organizing a team to completely obliterate an unorganized team isn't good practice. It might be fun, but it's not good practice." At that point I realized we were doing the same sort of thing we didn't want on our own servers. I felt pretty bad afterwards, so I switched teams to try and help Blu out.
Furthermore, when everyone left after the 2nd round, we completely kill the server. Dominating a team for 2 straight maps is extremely discouraging, especially to someone who just wants to pub it up and have fun. There were lots of rage-quits, and after the entirety of BRBU left, there were a total of something like 6 people left in the server. In my eyes, that's not cool. So, in the event that we do do this again, some guidelines to follow:
In summary, I had a helluva time and I hope we do it again. How about you?
For clarification:
We're not looking to whoop on pub scrubs. Unfortunately that's what it turned into this past weekend. The kinds of matches we are looking for are (in order)
Also, Dave and Duck want admins for the BRBU steam group to post announcements!
Teamwork: It works bitches
So I'll provide a bit of a backstory to this. First off, there's BALSAC and TBAG, the resident semi-cereals brbu folks who (hopefully) have been itching to scrim it up lately. Well for one reason or another, BALSAC hasn't managed to have a serious scrim since our first where BALSAC was broken in courtesy of [CN] or something like that, I don't really remember the clan, my mind just blocks the whole fiasco out. The point is, it's been a few weeks, and some of us have gotten antsy. Really antsy. Win or lose, we find TF2 to be a lot more fun when you're playing it competitively, even if only semi-competitively (ie you're not in a league, but you do scrim).
So last Wednesday, we hoped to have a BALSAC vs TBAG practice on Granary. Plans were to have a practice on Wednesday, and a serious rematch on Saturday after both teams had learned their lessons. Unfortunately, things didn't work out like we had hoped; neither team even had enough people present on Saturday for a match; things weren't looking good for the "serious business" guys at all. In the end, we decided to go pub crashing, do a little stacking, and see what we could do as a team anyways. We recruited some more brbu members and told them the plan. We were going to all join a pub and go Red. We'd use Vent so we could talk to each other, and the competitive folks could actually get a chance to work on communication (something we were dearly lacking in our first scrim). We ended up in 2Fort, and the results were pretty clear. 7/11 brb members on Red, working with the rest of the Red team managed to completely dominate the match. That being said, Blu did not go down without a helluva a fight.
Personally, I enjoyed myself immensely. While I love the brb servers, during regular pub hours they don't really offer the kind of gameplay I'm looking for. I enjoy a lot of teamplay (4 out of 12 players doesn't count, sorry), with some discussion of actual tactics to employ during gameplay. I don't enjoy the "oh, you're a good player, I'll uber you and hope the 2 of us can steamroll the entirety of the enemy team, and hope that our dumbass teammates will get the message and push the point." Don't get me wrong, during TFT/FNF, brb is where it's at, but the teamplay just hasn't been there during the regular pub hours, at least imho. All that being said, I'm curious who would be up for a repeat of this sort of thing. I had loads of fun, I'd like to think everyone on my team also enjoyed themselves. If this becomes a weekly sort of thing (where we either find an actual team to scrim, or crash a pub server), who would be interested in participating? There's no commitment, I'm just trying to gauge interest.
And lastly, a few remarks about Saturday. First off, when we won the round, I saw some behavior I do NOT approve of. Do NOT under any circumstances comment with something like "ALL BRBU" or the likes, a "GG" will do. If I remember who it was that said "ALL BRBU" I would reach across the internet and slap you. It shows poor sportsmanship, and it's unbecoming of a semi-serious TF2 player. Furthermore, it reflects extremely poorly on our community; just like the clan that had as of late been crashing the brbu servers and completely dominating, you made us out to be a bunch of team-stacking bullies. During the second round, a few people from [501pts] commented "Organizing a team to completely obliterate an unorganized team isn't good practice. It might be fun, but it's not good practice." At that point I realized we were doing the same sort of thing we didn't want on our own servers. I felt pretty bad afterwards, so I switched teams to try and help Blu out.
Furthermore, when everyone left after the 2nd round, we completely kill the server. Dominating a team for 2 straight maps is extremely discouraging, especially to someone who just wants to pub it up and have fun. There were lots of rage-quits, and after the entirety of BRBU left, there were a total of something like 6 people left in the server. In my eyes, that's not cool. So, in the event that we do do this again, some guidelines to follow:
Quote:-Go Red (it's easiest), but don't drop out of Blu to force a teamswitch. I know not everyone will listen to me, but for the ones that do, this will
-At the end of a round, do NOT say shit like "ALL BRBU." A "gg" is fine, if you've got nothing nice to say, don't say it. If I see this sort of thing again, you will not be invited to participate.
-Do NOT leave after the first map. During the second map, I would like people to go back to playing on opposite teams. Completely dominating a team 2 maps in a row kills a server quick, especially when you're all planning on leaving afterwards. So if you're planning on coming out, plan on staying for ~3 maps (the first where you get in, the second when we all go Red, and the third where we go back to normal).
-If it's obvious that the other team is getting slaughtered and/or quitting in droves, have a few top people switch to help them out. It's not cool to whoop on people, it just makes us look like a bunch of e-bullies.
In summary, I had a helluva time and I hope we do it again. How about you?
For clarification:
We're not looking to whoop on pub scrubs. Unfortunately that's what it turned into this past weekend. The kinds of matches we are looking for are (in order)
Quote:-a serious scrim with a real team (assuming we have about 8-ish show)
-joining up on a l33t clan-server running nocrits that has an all-star lineup of fantastic opponents
-just joining #2 and disabling alltalk for some serious play (only if we have enough people)
-joining a random public server, though in the future I think we would have less impact and look less like jerks if it were a 32-man server.
Also, Dave and Duck want admins for the BRBU steam group to post announcements!