After months of frequent freezes, random restarts, i got a BSOD and a minidump that could hopefully shed some light on why my system is so fucked all the time.
I downloaded the debugger to read the dump, but it wont read the file for the most part (something about the wrong symbol path...?) and it's mostly gibberish to me. If anyone can read this and give me some clue what the issue is, i would be indebted forever. I'll even name my first born after you.
I'm fairly sure it's a driver problem. I get a BSOD whenever i set up the driver verifyer in windows, but it doesn't specify which driver it had issues with. Also, i've run memchecks, deep hard disc scans, and i sent the motherboard to asus only to have them send it back to me saying nothing was wrong with it in the first place.
It could also be a problem with my install of windows, which always refused to activate (same issue with reinstalls, but it's a site license so it might just not like that i'm not on the right network)
any ways, here is the dump. It was a driver_irql_not_less_or_equal error, but there might have been more going on since i normally don't get BSOD's, just a sudden restart or a hard freeze
The error is caused by a file named "usbuhci.sys"
What OS and version are you running. Could you do a search of your computer for 'usbuhci.sys' and post a copy of the file? I would like to see who owns it.
Also, what is the make, model and revision of your motherboard?
i've honsestly had the same problems
random bsods and reboots with no error messages
you ever get a bsod that says Reference_by_Pointer
or an error from your post A Hyper Transport Sync Flood Error has occurred?
(07-26-2010, 11:06 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ]i've honsestly had the same problems
random bsods and reboots with no error messages
you ever get a bsod that says Reference_by_Pointer
or an error from your post A Hyper Transport Sync Flood Error has occurred?
no i don't think so. i think the only other bsod's i've had have been page faults
(07-26-2010, 11:29 PM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ]Try downloading and installing this driver: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/ut...taWin7.zip
What USB devices do you have connected?
i have a newer version of that driver already installed? to be clear, you think rolling back the driver would help?
Also, i don't have any usb devices plugged in. i have an ipod connector plugged in but no ipod, but the freezes go down with or without it.
(07-26-2010, 11:06 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ]i've honsestly had the same problems
random bsods and reboots with no error messages
This.
Win7 64bit, this morning I was copying Surrogates bluray rip from my PC to the lappy for a co-worker, and about 14 seconds into the transfer I watched my main PC just reboot itself.
No BSOD, no errors, just a reset like I hit reset.
Wasn't a power fluctuation, both the PSU's on that PC are on UPS.
Not the 1st random reboot I've gotten either...
Bah windows
Ive had what Kirby describes especially while playing TF2, which is why I've been taking a break.
yeah, same problem, except my problem goes down everyday, anywhere between five minutes to 4 hours after startup.
(07-27-2010, 09:41 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: [ -> ]Ive had what Kirby describes especially while playing TF2, which is why I've been taking a break.
I stopped TF2 again because with the update where Valve 'fixed' multicore rendering, my FPS went from 100+ on p.much any map, even non-optimized customs, to like 30. I get hardly 40FPS on the char select screen, and in game when theres > 3 people or so on my screen it drops to 15FPS and will not move higher. Turning off multicore caps my FPS at about 10
Taking that performance hit after the LAST hit where they 'fixed' the AMD bug and never fully fixed that fuckup, I'm srsly getting fed up with tf2, it's not even fun now
(07-26-2010, 11:53 PM)Ianki link Wrote: [ -> ]i have a newer version of that driver already installed? to be clear, you think rolling back the driver would help?
Also, i don't have any usb devices plugged in. i have an ipod connector plugged in but no ipod, but the freezes go down with or without it.
You are not rolling back, you are installing a driver for the same device ID from a different vendor. The Intel driver will be better then the generic Microsoft driver.
Just because a number inside the file is different, doesn't mean you are 'going backwards'.
Unless your mouse and keyboard are PS/2, you do have some USB devices.
(07-27-2010, 04:28 PM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Ianki link=topic=4846.msg166327#msg166327 date=1280206430]
i have a newer version of that driver already installed? to be clear, you think rolling back the driver would help?
Also, i don't have any usb devices plugged in. i have an ipod connector plugged in but no ipod, but the freezes go down with or without it.
You are not rolling back, you are installing a driver for the same device ID from a different vendor. The Intel driver will be better then the generic Microsoft driver.
Just because a number inside the file is different, doesn't mean you are 'going backwards'.
Unless your mouse and keyboard are PS/2, you do have some USB devices.
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oh shit, yeah. keyboard is ps/2, mouse is usb using razor's newest drivers
(07-27-2010, 10:06 AM)Ianki link Wrote: [ -> ]yeah, same problem, except my problem goes down everyday, anywhere between five minutes to 4 hours after startup.
see mine will run stable after a few system crashes
i didn't know you needed to warm up computers...
(07-27-2010, 04:28 PM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Ianki link=topic=4846.msg166327#msg166327 date=1280206430]
i have a newer version of that driver already installed? to be clear, you think rolling back the driver would help?
Also, i don't have any usb devices plugged in. i have an ipod connector plugged in but no ipod, but the freezes go down with or without it.
You are not rolling back, you are installing a driver for the same device ID from a different vendor. The Intel driver will be better then the generic Microsoft driver.
Just because a number inside the file is different, doesn't mean you are 'going backwards'.
Unless your mouse and keyboard are PS/2, you do have some USB devices.
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hmmmm it looks like i have a newer version of the intel drivers you are giving me, and these ones didn't like being installed.
(07-27-2010, 05:52 PM)Ianki link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=HeK link=topic=4846.msg166439#msg166439 date=1280266111]
[quote author=Ianki link=topic=4846.msg166327#msg166327 date=1280206430]
i have a newer version of that driver already installed? to be clear, you think rolling back the driver would help?
Also, i don't have any usb devices plugged in. i have an ipod connector plugged in but no ipod, but the freezes go down with or without it.
You are not rolling back, you are installing a driver for the same device ID from a different vendor. The Intel driver will be better then the generic Microsoft driver.
Just because a number inside the file is different, doesn't mean you are 'going backwards'.
Unless your mouse and keyboard are PS/2, you do have some USB devices.
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hmmmm it looks like i have a newer version of the intel drivers you are giving me, and these ones didn't like being installed.
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Uninstall, run driver cleaner or something similar if it works on your system, then reinstall?
might have all my problems been caused by too low a voltage to my ram?
The bios default is 1.8, and the specs for the DIMMs call for 2.1.
The internets abound with similar problems with my motherboard and using 4 dimms of ram. I still can't get the Ram to run at 1066 though, my bios only wants to run it at 800 for some reason. The internets abound with similar prob.
After bumping the voltage i haven't had a crash yet, but i also haven't seen any tigers around either.
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okay problems not solved, but it might be running a little smoother.
It's hard to quantify these things.
I'm too lazy to check back, but have you checked your BIOS to see if their up to date?
How about the wattage on your PSU, and what videocard/CPU are you running w/ how many HDD's?
If the problem abounds for people using all 4 DIMM slots w/ that mobo, that kinda screams like bad design.
Underpowering your ram could very easily cause BSOD's though, if they are designed to run with X power, and only get Y power, they could very well trip up when trying to deal with a large amount of data at once, think of it like trying to drive your car up a retardedly steep hill, while keeping it in 5th gear, going 20mph, just ain't gonna cut it.
How far will your BIOS let you crank up the voltage, and what are the speeds it will let you force set it at?
Have you checked every sticks' SPD info? Every stick of RAM has some info about it stored within, like it's manufacturer, serial#, type and manufacture date.
I once got a bad stick that would work fine most of the time, but occasionally throw BSOD's at me. memtest could never make it crash or throw an error, but after I noticed it's SPD information was reporting it was made in 1970, I figured it was bad, replaced it and never had a problem again.
(08-09-2010, 01:43 PM)Kirby, the AxeHammer Zealot link Wrote: [ -> ]I'm too lazy to check back, but have you checked your BIOS to see if their up to date?
How about the wattage on your PSU, and what videocard/CPU are you running w/ how many HDD's?
If the problem abounds for people using all 4 DIMM slots w/ that mobo, that kinda screams like bad design.
Underpowering your ram could very easily cause BSOD's though, if they are designed to run with X power, and only get Y power, they could very well trip up when trying to deal with a large amount of data at once, think of it like trying to drive your car up a retardedly steep hill, while keeping it in 5th gear, going 20mph, just ain't gonna cut it.
How far will your BIOS let you crank up the voltage, and what are the speeds it will let you force set it at?
Have you checked every sticks' SPD info? Every stick of RAM has some info about it stored within, like it's manufacturer, serial#, type and manufacture date.
I once got a bad stick that would work fine most of the time, but occasionally throw BSOD's at me. memtest could never make it crash or throw an error, but after I noticed it's SPD information was reporting it was made in 1970, I figured it was bad, replaced it and never had a problem again.
CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819116001
Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813131299
Videocard: Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 512MB
PSU: 550W
RAM: 4 1gb dimms of Corsair CM2x1024-8500C5d
I have the newest BIOS, there is a
modified BIOS based on what i have that claims to have better memory compatibility but i'm scared enough to flash my BIOS (especially with freezes and random restarts).
The BIOS might not be clocking the CPU correctly either, though i don't really know what i'm doing overclocking wise
I take back what i said. I think i was sold me the wrong processor.
Trying to get to the bottom of why i was having so many problems with my computer i download CPUz to get a good look at the settings, and it seems i have a pentium 4 520 instead of the D 805. I think it's power need is what's causing so much instability since it's running at default settings and cooking up to 50 celsius.
also, not that i know much about this stuff, but it's running at 200 bus speed, and the ram at 400 (and i think those corsairs i have should be running at 1066?)
Not that it's a big deal (though it does solve the big mystery of why 64bit windows wouldn't install), but i was wondering if that might have been the cause of all my computer problems over the last however months?
I was thinking about picking this up:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...819116347,
this'll work in the mobo right? and have better compatibility with the ddr2 1066? It'll certainly run smoother and cooler.