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Eschatos

10-01-2011, 01:12 AM
So surprisingly I have been called upon to setup a LAN for gaming for the first time.  I bought a switch from Newegg and then discovered that setting up a LAN is not as simple as just plugging all the computers into the switch.  After following dozens of shitty guides I've tried everything from setting up static IPs to enabling network sharing, all with no success in actually setting up a network.  For anyone with the knowledge: please explain how to set this shit up or link to a guide that actually works. 

tl;dr:  Eschatos is a moron and can't set up his own network.

zaneyard

10-01-2011, 02:02 AM
you literally plug each computer into a port on the switch.
you still need a router. which likely has a dhcp server that you can use to assign addresses.
if you're getting ip address conflicts go into cmd and type in ipconfig -release and ipconfig -renew

if you want more help you really need to tell us what you need because "IT BROK HOW I FIX" isn't going to cut it.

honestly this is as easy as jungling with ww you can't fail at that.


or can you?




i love you eschatos have my children.

Kirby

10-01-2011, 07:44 AM
If LAN has internet access, set up modem and router like you normally would, plug no computers into the router, run cable from router port one to the uplink port on the switch (Which will probably use the same hardware inside the switch as it's highest #'ed port, so you can't use that port)


Plug every computer into switch.


Be happy.

HeK

10-01-2011, 09:24 AM
Keep in mind that not all switches offer uplink ports. Check your documentation.
If you do not have an uplink port on your switch, you must use a cross over cable to connect your residential gateway to your switch.

While checking your switch manual, keep an eye out for 'Auto-MDIX', 'Universal Cable Recognition' or 'Auto Sensing'. If this feature is supported on either device (Dlink offers this feature on nearly every device) then you will not need a crossover as the device itself can automatically cross.

zaneyard

10-01-2011, 12:21 PM
(10-01-2011, 09:24 AM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ]Keep in mind that not all switches offer uplink ports. Check your documentation.
If you do not have an uplink port on your switch, you must use a cross over cable to connect your residential gateway to your switch.

While checking your switch manual, keep an eye out for 'Auto-MDIX', 'Universal Cable Recognition' or 'Auto Sensing'. If this feature is supported on either device (Dlink offers this feature on nearly every device) then you will not need a crossover as the device itself can automatically cross.
yeah most workgroup switches now have auto sensing i don't remember the last time i've had to use a crossover

Eschatos

10-01-2011, 12:51 PM
(10-01-2011, 09:24 AM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ]Keep in mind that not all switches offer uplink ports. Check your documentation.
If you do not have an uplink port on your switch, you must use a cross over cable to connect your residential gateway to your switch.

While checking your switch manual, keep an eye out for 'Auto-MDIX', 'Universal Cable Recognition' or 'Auto Sensing'. If this feature is supported on either device (Dlink offers this feature on nearly every device) then you will not need a crossover as the device itself can automatically cross.

The manual is literally 3 pages long and describes none of those things.

Also why would I need a router to create a LAN? I thought that was what the switch itself was for.

edit: the website says that all the ports are Auto-MDIX.

zaneyard

10-01-2011, 01:17 PM
(10-01-2011, 12:51 PM)Eschatos link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=HeK link=topic=5993.msg224922#msg224922 date=1317479092]
Keep in mind that not all switches offer uplink ports. Check your documentation.
If you do not have an uplink port on your switch, you must use a cross over cable to connect your residential gateway to your switch.

While checking your switch manual, keep an eye out for 'Auto-MDIX', 'Universal Cable Recognition' or 'Auto Sensing'. If this feature is supported on either device (Dlink offers this feature on nearly every device) then you will not need a crossover as the device itself can automatically cross.

The manual is literally 3 pages long and describes none of those things.

Also why would I need a router to create a LAN? I thought that was what the switch itself was for.

edit: the website says that all the ports are Auto-MDIX.
[/quote]
you need a device to hand out ip addresses unless you want to do that for each device itself

Eschatos

10-01-2011, 03:29 PM
(10-01-2011, 01:17 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Eschatos link=topic=5993.msg224935#msg224935 date=1317491478]
[quote author=HeK link=topic=5993.msg224922#msg224922 date=1317479092]
Keep in mind that not all switches offer uplink ports. Check your documentation.
If you do not have an uplink port on your switch, you must use a cross over cable to connect your residential gateway to your switch.

While checking your switch manual, keep an eye out for 'Auto-MDIX', 'Universal Cable Recognition' or 'Auto Sensing'. If this feature is supported on either device (Dlink offers this feature on nearly every device) then you will not need a crossover as the device itself can automatically cross.

The manual is literally 3 pages long and describes none of those things.

Also why would I need a router to create a LAN? I thought that was what the switch itself was for.

edit: the website says that all the ports are Auto-MDIX.
[/quote]
you need a device to hand out ip addresses unless you want to do that for each device itself
[/quote]

Ok, how would I do that for each device itself?

zaneyard

10-01-2011, 04:20 PM
(10-01-2011, 03:29 PM)Eschatos link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=zaneyard link=topic=5993.msg224938#msg224938 date=1317493059]
[quote author=Eschatos link=topic=5993.msg224935#msg224935 date=1317491478]
[quote author=HeK link=topic=5993.msg224922#msg224922 date=1317479092]
Keep in mind that not all switches offer uplink ports. Check your documentation.
If you do not have an uplink port on your switch, you must use a cross over cable to connect your residential gateway to your switch.

While checking your switch manual, keep an eye out for 'Auto-MDIX', 'Universal Cable Recognition' or 'Auto Sensing'. If this feature is supported on either device (Dlink offers this feature on nearly every device) then you will not need a crossover as the device itself can automatically cross.

The manual is literally 3 pages long and describes none of those things.

Also why would I need a router to create a LAN? I thought that was what the switch itself was for.

edit: the website says that all the ports are Auto-MDIX.
[/quote]
you need a device to hand out ip addresses unless you want to do that for each device itself
[/quote]

Ok, how would I do that for each device itself?
[/quote]
well it depends on what the device is.
windows you go into control panel and assign an ip address and subnet mask to the adapter that you're connecting to the network

Eschatos

10-01-2011, 04:33 PM
(10-01-2011, 04:20 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Eschatos link=topic=5993.msg224947#msg224947 date=1317500982]
[quote author=zaneyard link=topic=5993.msg224938#msg224938 date=1317493059]
[quote author=Eschatos link=topic=5993.msg224935#msg224935 date=1317491478]
[quote author=HeK link=topic=5993.msg224922#msg224922 date=1317479092]
Keep in mind that not all switches offer uplink ports. Check your documentation.
If you do not have an uplink port on your switch, you must use a cross over cable to connect your residential gateway to your switch.

While checking your switch manual, keep an eye out for 'Auto-MDIX', 'Universal Cable Recognition' or 'Auto Sensing'. If this feature is supported on either device (Dlink offers this feature on nearly every device) then you will not need a crossover as the device itself can automatically cross.

The manual is literally 3 pages long and describes none of those things.

Also why would I need a router to create a LAN? I thought that was what the switch itself was for.

edit: the website says that all the ports are Auto-MDIX.
[/quote]
you need a device to hand out ip addresses unless you want to do that for each device itself
[/quote]

Ok, how would I do that for each device itself?
[/quote]
well it depends on what the device is.
windows you go into control panel and assign an ip address and subnet mask to the adapter that you're connecting to the network


[/quote]

And if I do that for each individual computer the LAN will work?

zaneyard

10-01-2011, 04:49 PM
(10-01-2011, 04:33 PM)Eschatos link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=zaneyard link=topic=5993.msg224953#msg224953 date=1317504009]
[quote author=Eschatos link=topic=5993.msg224947#msg224947 date=1317500982]
[quote author=zaneyard link=topic=5993.msg224938#msg224938 date=1317493059]
[quote author=Eschatos link=topic=5993.msg224935#msg224935 date=1317491478]
[quote author=HeK link=topic=5993.msg224922#msg224922 date=1317479092]
Keep in mind that not all switches offer uplink ports. Check your documentation.
If you do not have an uplink port on your switch, you must use a cross over cable to connect your residential gateway to your switch.

While checking your switch manual, keep an eye out for 'Auto-MDIX', 'Universal Cable Recognition' or 'Auto Sensing'. If this feature is supported on either device (Dlink offers this feature on nearly every device) then you will not need a crossover as the device itself can automatically cross.

The manual is literally 3 pages long and describes none of those things.

Also why would I need a router to create a LAN? I thought that was what the switch itself was for.

edit: the website says that all the ports are Auto-MDIX.
[/quote]
you need a device to hand out ip addresses unless you want to do that for each device itself
[/quote]

Ok, how would I do that for each device itself?
[/quote]
well it depends on what the device is.
windows you go into control panel and assign an ip address and subnet mask to the adapter that you're connecting to the network


[/quote]

And if I do that for each individual computer the LAN will work?
[/quote]
unless you further explain what's wrong, yes.

Vandamguy

10-02-2011, 05:49 PM
its just so much easier to just get a router.

if its a one time lan party buy one , then return it the next day.

zaneyard

10-02-2011, 06:28 PM
(10-02-2011, 05:49 PM)Vandamguy link Wrote: [ -> ]its just so much easier to just get a router.

if its a one time lan party buy one , then return it the next day.
who doesn't have a router though unless you don't want your network to connect to the internet

HeK

10-02-2011, 09:20 PM
(10-01-2011, 12:21 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=HeK link=topic=5993.msg224922#msg224922 date=1317479092]
Keep in mind that not all switches offer uplink ports. Check your documentation.
If you do not have an uplink port on your switch, you must use a cross over cable to connect your residential gateway to your switch.

While checking your switch manual, keep an eye out for 'Auto-MDIX', 'Universal Cable Recognition' or 'Auto Sensing'. If this feature is supported on either device (Dlink offers this feature on nearly every device) then you will not need a crossover as the device itself can automatically cross.
yeah most workgroup switches now have auto sensing i don't remember the last time i've had to use a crossover
[/quote]

CISCO.

CaffeinePowered

10-02-2011, 11:23 PM
(10-02-2011, 09:20 PM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ]CRISCO.


[Image: Crisco%20wikicommons500.jpg]

zaneyard

10-02-2011, 11:30 PM
(10-02-2011, 09:20 PM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ]DISCO
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Greatbacon

10-02-2011, 11:49 PM
(10-02-2011, 09:20 PM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ]NABISCO.

[Image: nabisco.gif?w=346&h=346]

K2

10-02-2011, 11:52 PM
(10-02-2011, 09:20 PM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ]SISKO.

[Image: BenSisko.jpg]

HeK

10-02-2011, 11:54 PM
None of the above popular products support auto-sensing.

zaneyard

10-03-2011, 12:00 AM
(10-02-2011, 11:54 PM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ]None of the above popular products support auto-sensing.
my linksys switch has auto sensing i think
i haven't worked with any current cisco equipment so i can't speak for that but i would assume they would.
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