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A very different new game mode, eh?  I'm intrigued...

(01-20-2009, 05:54 PM)ZargonX link Wrote: [ -> ]A very different new game mode, eh?  I'm intrigued...

Could this be the storm the base type thing we've been talking aboot?  We need to get started on that btw.

I hope that Scout pack gets released soon. Also new Meet the...video plox D:

Oh snap, nice find seabreeze  8)

Hopefully the game mode is actually good.  I hated arena.  And the idea of possible new classes is sweet.  Would keep the game pretty fresh even once all the class updates happen.

Hunted please

I seriously doubt hunted is ever going to come back, considering PL was their "new version" of it. Also, this raged me:

Quote:Over time, average players have become much better at detecting and dispatching disguised Spies, making the ability pretty useless for all but the sneakiest of players. Additionally, Walker feels the Engineer's sentry guns have become "too binary." They're highly lethal to some players and wholly ineffective against others. Sentry guns are also easily dispatched by skilled players, leaving Engineers with little recourse.

I play spy 80% of the time, and while it's true that it's fairly easy to find a disguised spy, you shouldn't be wandering around as a spy in the open for more than a few seconds anyways. "Fixing" the disguises would just make noob spies more abundant. I'm hating where that's going, but not nearly as much as the sentries part. Sentries are easily killed by skilled players? No shit sherlock, so is everything in the game, that's generally why they're called "skilled". The level 3 dispensers are already making it ridiculously easy for Engis to set back up and stay up unless there's a large scale group effort from blue, and typically one or two engis can hold a chokepoint against the full blue team on most attack/defend or push maps with no real help from their team unless blue has very good teamwork. They don't need to fucking buff them again.

The loudest and usually the most massive group in any given thing is usually the stupid ones, and I don't like where the community driven TF2 shit is going.

(01-23-2009, 06:07 AM)Blues link Wrote: [ -> ]I seriously doubt hunted is ever going to come back, considering PL was their "new version" of it. Also, this raged me:

Quote:Over time, average players have become much better at detecting and dispatching disguised Spies, making the ability pretty useless for all but the sneakiest of players. Additionally, Walker feels the Engineer's sentry guns have become "too binary." They're highly lethal to some players and wholly ineffective against others. Sentry guns are also easily dispatched by skilled players, leaving Engineers with little recourse.

I play spy 80% of the time, and while it's true that it's fairly easy to find a disguised spy, you shouldn't be wandering around as a spy in the open for more than a few seconds anyways. "Fixing" the disguises would just make noob spies more abundant. I'm hating where that's going. Also, sentries are easily killed by skilled players? No shit sherlock, so is everything in the game, that's generally why they're called "skilled".

The loudest and usually the most massive group in any given thing is usually the stupid ones, and I don't like where the community driven TF2 shit is going.

Sadly that has to be somewhat true, as the Heavy updates were the most useless POS ever with a gimick like the Sandvich and a useless nub gun in the Natascha.  My boyfriend reads the official TF2 forums at work when he's bored at work, and I'm pretty sure everyone in there is retarded (and I would imagine where a lot of their "community" ideas come from).  WTF would they do to "fix" the spy disguises anyways though?  I think they did a pretty good job of fixing the class up already with the ammo for stealth deal, since like you said the class is supposed to be played out of sight most of the time anyways.

Only two things they need to fix with spies

1) Getting stuck in other models
2) Backstabs registering

(01-23-2009, 06:11 AM)Wedge link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Blues link=topic=2182.msg62812#msg62812 date=1232708830]
I seriously doubt hunted is ever going to come back, considering PL was their "new version" of it. Also, this raged me:

Quote:Over time, average players have become much better at detecting and dispatching disguised Spies, making the ability pretty useless for all but the sneakiest of players. Additionally, Walker feels the Engineer's sentry guns have become "too binary." They're highly lethal to some players and wholly ineffective against others. Sentry guns are also easily dispatched by skilled players, leaving Engineers with little recourse.

I play spy 80% of the time, and while it's true that it's fairly easy to find a disguised spy, you shouldn't be wandering around as a spy in the open for more than a few seconds anyways. "Fixing" the disguises would just make noob spies more abundant. I'm hating where that's going. Also, sentries are easily killed by skilled players? No shit sherlock, so is everything in the game, that's generally why they're called "skilled".

The loudest and usually the most massive group in any given thing is usually the stupid ones, and I don't like where the community driven TF2 shit is going.

Sadly that has to be somewhat true, as the Heavy updates were the most useless POS ever with a gimick like the Sandvich and a useless nub gun in the Natascha.  My boyfriend reads the official TF2 forums at work when he's bored at work, and I'm pretty sure everyone in there is retarded too.  WTF would they do to "fix" the spy disguises anyways though?  I think they did a pretty good job of fixing the class up already with the ammo for stealth deal, since like you said the class is supposed to be played out of sight most of the time anyways.
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The wording in that article still cracks me up. "Only the sneakiest players"? Hmmm. Spy. Sneaky. Sneaky players are the only good spies. WE SHOULD FIX THAT!

And yes, the Natascha is shit and only useful for the Heavy players who were too fucking stupid to turn and prefire when being circle strafed by scouts, which I'm sure is why it was suggested a billion times. SCOUTS TOO FAST MAKE HEAVY FASTER, WAIT MAKE SCOUT SLOWER LOLOLOL

(01-23-2009, 06:14 AM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: [ -> ]Only two things they need to fix with spies

1) Getting stuck in other models
2) Backstabs registering

This. Although I no longer have trouble with backstabs, they should just take out the animation entirely imo, and I've actually never gotten stuck in someone.

(01-23-2009, 06:17 AM)Blues link Wrote: [ -> ]This. Although I no longer have trouble with backstabs, they should just take out the animation entirely imo, and I've actually never gotten stuck in someone.

The stuck bug has been made harder to replicate, but you can still do it, and its really aggravating when it happens. The only things I could see then "buffing" on the spy is letting them clip through enemies while cloaked or speeding up how fast you cloak/decloak.

Neither of these are really needed though

they should be able to feign death like tfc...

(01-23-2009, 10:33 AM)SAVAGE-0 link Wrote: [ -> ]they should be able to feign death like tfc...

Achievement: Stop Drop & Roll - Feign death to put out flames

(01-23-2009, 10:56 AM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=SAVAGE-0 link=topic=2182.msg62830#msg62830 date=1232724805]
they should be able to feign death like tfc...

Achievement: Stop Drop & Roll - Feign death to put out flames
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There are plenty server with a plugin that allows the spy to throw a corspe with Mouse1 while cloaked

(01-23-2009, 03:09 PM)Vongore link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=CaffeinePowered link=topic=2182.msg62832#msg62832 date=1232726217]
[quote author=SAVAGE-0 link=topic=2182.msg62830#msg62830 date=1232724805]
they should be able to feign death like tfc...

Achievement: Stop Drop & Roll - Feign death to put out flames
[/quote]

There are plenty server with a plugin that allows the spy to throw a corspe with Mouse1 while cloaked
[/quote]I am intrigued by this plugin

(01-23-2009, 03:26 PM)Squishy3 link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Vongore link=topic=2182.msg62853#msg62853 date=1232741361]
[quote author=CaffeinePowered link=topic=2182.msg62832#msg62832 date=1232726217]
[quote author=SAVAGE-0 link=topic=2182.msg62830#msg62830 date=1232724805]
they should be able to feign death like tfc...

Achievement: Stop Drop & Roll - Feign death to put out flames
[/quote]

There are plenty server with a plugin that allows the spy to throw a corpse with Mouse1 while cloaked
[/quote]I am intrigued by this plugin
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Problem is spamming ragdolls lags the server hard, and dont say people wont do it because thats the only thing that ever comes out of this plugin

but spamming them is fun

but duck, it would be fun if we used it on pubs because then they would think they did kill the spy.