Be Right Back, Uninstalling

(07-06-2008, 09:00 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=hawtpawkithero link=topic=277.msg19416#msg19416 date=1215386721]
[quote author=zaneyard link=topic=277.msg19409#msg19409 date=1215383445]
I want to put together a computer, prolly not going to be for a little while but, if someone could look over this build and first: tell me if it would work, and second: give me suggestions for anything i may be missing such as cables and stuff.

Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6811146041
Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813138102
RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820231098
GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814143118
CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819103773
HDD's http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6822136055 2 of these in a RAID 0
PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6817226007
Optical Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6827151171
Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6811999138 Going to replace the blue side fan on the case cause i like red better

Also, what is thermal grease, and do you think i should pick up a CPU cooler?
My biggest worry is that i wont have enough cables to go to everything and/or they wont be long enough
This would be my first build and i would be very grateful if someone would go over everything and make sure it is compatible, i have checked everything but i am a noobie as far as putting the computer together goes.
it would be much easier to just link my newegg wishlist, but i cant get it to work public.
I thank everyone in advance!

Everything is compatible as far as I can tell.
Thermal grease is the stuff you put between the processor and the heatsink (on top of the processor). It pulls the heat out of the CPU and the heatsink pulls the heat out of the thermal grease. The better the thermal grease/heatsink/fan, the better.
I'd highly recommend you got a cpu fan and a tube of thermal paste, you'll get much better cooling from an aftermarket fan than a stock one.
Just make sure that the cpu fan is the same socket type (AM2) as your motherboard's.
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Hows this for a CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6835186019
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Nah, that thing is ginourmous and if it's your first build you'd be pulling your hair out trying to get it in.
This one's better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6835186010

(07-06-2008, 09:28 PM)Versus link Wrote: [ -> ]lol quintuple post.

gtfo of this thread with useless posts, seriously. It's for helping out folks, and that kind of shit just junks up the entire thread.

Zaneyard, here's an example of what is WAY WAY WAY too much thermal paste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU2_uP9S9Gg&NR=1

Basically, your best bet is to follow the instructions provided with your heatsink. I would pull up a video to show you how to do it, but having watched over a dozen videos on youtube, I am convinced no one in the internet knows how to do that shit right and post it online. You don't put tape on anything, you don't touch it with your fingers (oils), you don't put too much paste, etc etc etc. You just want the smallest film ever, a film so thin it's translucent. If you're a nub to it, go with some kind of silver-compound, it's more friendly to you if you screw up and put too much, it just needs to be enough to cover it.

In general, this is why I suggest n00bs stick with stock CPU and heatsink. It's got more or less the proper amount of paste on it, as long as you don't touch it with your fingers you're gold.

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For your edification (ie tldr version of what Surf said)

Why do we need thermal paste? Well, the answer is that it is absolutely impossible to manufacture a completely smooth surface. Furthermore, with most materials, the surface is usually pitted with billions of micro/sub-microscopic cracks (one of the reasons most materials fatigue). Yes, it is possible to make machined surfaces with surface finishes on the order of nanometers, but as of right now, it is impossible to manufacture products with that kind of surface finish without a ridiculous amount of added cost. So for now, imagine that your cpu and heatsink have rough surfaces with millions of tiny cracks. Those surfaces aren't going to transmit much heat to each other, are they?

So we fill in the cracks and unsmoothness with thermal paste. The problem is, while your CPU and heatsink transmit heat extremely well (they're metal), that thermal paste does not. Imagine it's like a thick glue. Heat travels from one side to the other very slowly. With too much thermal paste, it's the paste that ends up being the bottleneck on your heat transfer. So even a $1200 CPU cooler ain't worth shit if you smear on too much paste. So you want to use just enough paste to smooth up the surfaces, but not so much that you massively restrict heat-transfer from the CPU to the heatsink.

</super-boring rant>

So just to make sure, with AMD CPU's, I just drop a dab and let the paste get sandwiched between the heatsink and CPU, no spreading?

(07-06-2008, 11:15 PM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Versus link=topic=277.msg19462#msg19462 date=1215397692]
lol quintuple post.

gtfo of this thread with useless posts, seriously. It's for helping out folks, and that kind of shit just junks up the entire thread.
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Chill out dude.

where can i get one of those finger condoms?  i have an idea but i dont want to get my thumb dirty.

(07-07-2008, 10:03 AM)Vandamguy link Wrote: [ -> ]where can i get one of those finger condoms?  i have an idea but i dont want to get my thumb dirty.

Sorry for continuing the derailment of this thread.  Tell you what I will start assembling useful stuff in the top post.

(07-06-2008, 09:28 PM)Versus link Wrote: [ -> ]lol quintuple post.

Beat me to it.

(07-07-2008, 10:05 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: [ -> ]Tell you what I will start assembling useful stuff in the top post.

<3  :-* :-* :-* :-*

(07-07-2008, 10:05 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry for continuing the derailment of this thread.

Used to know a chick who got fisted...could never look at her with a straight face again

(07-07-2008, 12:10 PM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: [ -> ]Used to know a chick who got fisted...could never look at her with a straight face again

Did you tend to overuse the expression "need a hand" around her?

(07-07-2008, 12:13 PM)Surf314 link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=CaffeinePowered link=topic=277.msg19587#msg19587 date=1215450657]
Used to know a chick who got fisted...could never look at her with a straight face again

Did you tend to overuse the expression "need a hand" around her?
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I'm glad my boss is just a 20-something PHD candidate with a sense of humor. Telling him what was so funny might have been super awkward.

aahahahaahah budr.

awesome pic. lmfao.

(07-06-2008, 11:11 PM)hawtpawkithero link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=zaneyard link=topic=277.msg19458#msg19458 date=1215396045]
[quote author=hawtpawkithero link=topic=277.msg19416#msg19416 date=1215386721]
[quote author=zaneyard link=topic=277.msg19409#msg19409 date=1215383445]
I want to put together a computer, prolly not going to be for a little while but, if someone could look over this build and first: tell me if it would work, and second: give me suggestions for anything i may be missing such as cables and stuff.

Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6811146041
Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813138102
RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820231098
GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814143118
CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819103773
HDD's http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6822136055 2 of these in a RAID 0
PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6817226007
Optical Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6827151171
Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6811999138 Going to replace the blue side fan on the case cause i like red better

Also, what is thermal grease, and do you think i should pick up a CPU cooler?
My biggest worry is that i wont have enough cables to go to everything and/or they wont be long enough
This would be my first build and i would be very grateful if someone would go over everything and make sure it is compatible, i have checked everything but i am a noobie as far as putting the computer together goes.
it would be much easier to just link my newegg wishlist, but i cant get it to work public.
I thank everyone in advance!

Everything is compatible as far as I can tell.
Thermal grease is the stuff you put between the processor and the heatsink (on top of the processor). It pulls the heat out of the CPU and the heatsink pulls the heat out of the thermal grease. The better the thermal grease/heatsink/fan, the better.
I'd highly recommend you got a cpu fan and a tube of thermal paste, you'll get much better cooling from an aftermarket fan than a stock one.
Just make sure that the cpu fan is the same socket type (AM2) as your motherboard's.
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Hows this for a CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6835186019
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Nah, that thing is ginourmous and if it's your first build you'd be pulling your hair out trying to get it in.
This one's better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6835186010
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Wrong Socket Type?
"All AMD Sempron (Socket 754)
and Athlon 64
Athlon 64 FX up to FX-59
AMD Athlon X2 up to 5000+ "

Does this work
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Public...tTitle=AMD
there is the full system for reference.
Ehh, having car troubles atm. Don't know how early computer putting together time is going to come.

(07-07-2008, 03:18 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ]Does this work
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Public...tTitle=AMD
there is the full system for reference.

Looks good. When you buy stuff, make note of the warranty length. That way if you get boned, newegg might replace it for you. Good luck when you do get around to building it, and let us know how it turns out ;D

yeah i hope i can pull together the money in the next couple of months. Maybe the car problem will only be a couple hundred and i don't have to start looking for a new one.

(07-08-2008, 11:28 AM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ]yeah i hope i can pull together the money in the next couple of months. Maybe the car problem will only be a couple hundred and i don't have to start looking for a new one.

haha, fat chance

Used to be a bit of a mechanic myself (more an apprentice really), that shit just isn't cheap anymore.

(07-08-2008, 11:48 AM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=zaneyard link=topic=277.msg19832#msg19832 date=1215534513]
yeah i hope i can pull together the money in the next couple of months. Maybe the car problem will only be a couple hundred and i don't have to start looking for a new one.

haha, fat chance

Used to be a bit of a mechanic myself (more an apprentice really), that shit just isn't cheap anymore.
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yeah there is some deal with my tranny, it may be just a problem with the computer or speed sensor though, that's what i am hoping for.
*Edit* Sorry kinda off topic