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So yeah, I'm in art college, and I would hope there would be like minded people like me.
Nope, it seems that I'm a liberal arts logical thinker while other people are roused by their emotions.

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Friend:"Im gonna put on my costume"
Me:"Do it faggot"
Bitch:"can you not say that word? I find it so derogatory and it makes my blood boil"
Me:"No, whats so offensive about it?"
Bitch:"Its demeaning, how would you like it if I called you a chink all the time?"
Me:"What ever, I dont care"
Else:"But she does."
Me:"Okay, then she can, you know, not call me a chink all the time. So whats wrong with the word faggot?"
Else:"You should respect her wishes."
Me:"And she should respect my right to say whatever."
Else:"no..."
Me:"Okay, then I'm not going to respect her wishes."
Bitch:"It can be a form of harassment you know."
Me: "Hey (friend), are you going to file for harassment?"
Friend:"Uh, ha, no."
Me: "UUHP! Problem solved."
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Not sure what you're saying. Faggot is a pretty offensive word. I rarely use it, and then I only use it with people who know me well enough to know I'm using it "ironically."

Also, you're talking about logic, doesn't it seem logical that if someone is hurt by a word, you would be nice not to use it?


Whatever.
(12-05-2008, 02:45 PM)fyre link Wrote: [ -> ]???

Not sure what you're saying. Faggot is a pretty offensive word. I rarely use it, and then I only use it with people who know me well enough to know I'm using it "ironically."

Also, you're talking about logic, doesn't it seem logical that if someone is hurt by a word, you would be nice not to use it?


Whatever.
Faggot isn't an offensive word if its used non-offensively. People get too caught up in the word itself, and not the meaning behind the word.

Also, if someone is willing to call me a chink and swear a lot, wouldn't it seem logical to accept faggot? It hardly seems right to single that out, but accept everything else.
I thought that do it faggot was like an interwebs meme.

And saying it to your friend, really wasn't made to offend anyone.

Still kinda mean referring to gay people, or making fun of gay people with the word.  But you weren't.  So I too fail to see the problem.
Zoso
(12-05-2008, 03:50 PM)Vongore link Wrote: [ -> ]Zoso

oh shit! XDDD
(12-05-2008, 03:13 PM)Sponson link Wrote: [ -> ]Faggot isn't an offensive word if its used non-offensively. People get too caught up in the word itself, and not the meaning behind the word.

In modern English faggot is most commonly used as an anti-gay slur. This doesn't mean that everyone who uses the word hates gays. But you should expect people to think that's how you're using it, if they don't know you very well. That's just how it is most often used.

Obviously, you can say faggot and not mean it as a slur. But I would avoid it unless you're sure people know what you mean, or you don't care what they think of you. As St. Paul said, "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient."

Anyway, I don't really know the context so...whatever. ;D


And yeah, calling you a chink is just as bad. And whenever I hear that word, I think of this. (Skip to 6:25.)

And I think I'm the first person to quote the Bible on this forum. Tongue
Usually I speak like that to, but only when with friends who know what I mean; I say that all the time but my friends are aware that I'm not using it to hate on gay people or what have you. I'm using a retarded meme.

I understand that it is commonly used to hate on gay people but that's never my intent; if someone asked me to stop saying it because it offended them, then I would.
(12-05-2008, 03:51 PM)Geoff link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Vongore link=topic=1913.msg53327#msg53327 date=1228510220]
Zoso

oh shit! XDDD
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oh no you di'nt
(12-05-2008, 04:35 PM)Luinbariel link Wrote: [ -> ]Usually I speak like that to, but only when with friends who know what I mean; I say that all the time but my friends are aware that I'm not using it to hate on gay people or what have you. I'm using a retarded meme.

I understand that it is commonly used to hate on gay people but that's never my intent; if someone asked me to stop saying it because it offended them, then I would.

Exactly, I said it to my friend, who understands. And she comes out of no where and demands I stop saying it. Sure its easy to stop saying it, just as easy as it is to lay down arms and get world peace. Theres also some thought that prevents us from doing so.

If she wants to demand something of me, I just think I could demand something of her back. Considering she came out of no where, eavesdropping and shit. Whoops!
If only she knew I drew furries with giant dicks.
(12-05-2008, 05:18 PM)Sponson link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Luinbariel link=topic=1913.msg53337#msg53337 date=1228512950]
Usually I speak like that to, but only when with friends who know what I mean; I say that all the time but my friends are aware that I'm not using it to hate on gay people or what have you. I'm using a retarded meme.

I understand that it is commonly used to hate on gay people but that's never my intent; if someone asked me to stop saying it because it offended them, then I would.

Exactly, I said it to my friend, who understands. And she comes out of no where and demands I stop saying it. Sure its easy to stop saying it, just as easy as it is to lay down arms and get world peace. Theres also some thought that prevents us from doing so.

If she wants to demand something of me, I just think I could demand something of her back. Considering she came out of no where, eavesdropping and shit. Whoops!
If only she knew I drew furries with giant dicks.
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soloution, draw her with a dick.
(12-05-2008, 05:20 PM)Dave link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Sponson link=topic=1913.msg53345#msg53345 date=1228515537]
[quote author=Luinbariel link=topic=1913.msg53337#msg53337 date=1228512950]
Usually I speak like that to, but only when with friends who know what I mean; I say that all the time but my friends are aware that I'm not using it to hate on gay people or what have you. I'm using a retarded meme.

I understand that it is commonly used to hate on gay people but that's never my intent; if someone asked me to stop saying it because it offended them, then I would.

Exactly, I said it to my friend, who understands. And she comes out of no where and demands I stop saying it. Sure its easy to stop saying it, just as easy as it is to lay down arms and get world peace. Theres also some thought that prevents us from doing so.

If she wants to demand something of me, I just think I could demand something of her back. Considering she came out of no where, eavesdropping and shit. Whoops!
If only she knew I drew furries with giant dicks.
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soloution, draw her with a dick.
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She's so fugly. I kinda don't want to draw her, period.
Lulululul fags.  I get to use that liek I'm blackity black rite?  Yeah I don't really give a shit about "words" and believe everything would work better if no one was offended by any word alone and could live using the vast array of other abilities we have to infer human communication.  Of course the internet loses a lot of those senses, but it's developing it's own means of communication "non-verbal" (even if most of it is still technically "words") communication over time as well.

Also when I saw the title I thought it was art school for furries.
(12-05-2008, 06:16 PM)Wedge link Wrote: [ -> ]Also when I saw the title I thought it was art school for furries.

Words have different meanings to different people.  Faggot can also mean firewood or cigarette.  Queer can also mean unusual.  Gay used to be used quite frequently to mean happy.  Short story is I think you were right in your logic but wrong in your handling.  Unfortunately you have to realize your words can take on unintentional meanings and unintentionally upset people.  That's my opinion on it.

Also funny story on the subject.  My grandma who can be a bit out of it called me "pussy" as a pet name and almost snapped my mind in half.  It took a while for me to realize that she was shortening the endearing term pussy cat which was also way way out of fashion.  Thankfully my dad was around and explained to her aside that the word has much different meanings than she thought.  Personally I couldn't react.  I was so shocked I didn't know whether to laugh, feel ambarassed, horrified or insulted.
(12-05-2008, 07:47 PM)Surf314 link Wrote: [ -> ]Faggot can also mean cigarette.

That's fag. If you're smoking a faggot, you're doing it very wrong.
(12-05-2008, 07:47 PM)Surf314 link Wrote: [ -> ]Also funny story on the subject.  My grandma who can be a bit out of it called me "pussy" as a pet name and almost snapped my mind in half.  It took a while for me to realize that she was shortening the endearing term pussy cat which was also way way out of fashion.  Thankfully my dad was around and explained to her aside that the word has much different meanings than she thought.  Personally I couldn't react.  I was so shocked I didn't know whether to laugh, feel ambarassed, horrified or insulted.

(12-05-2008, 07:54 PM)Arnies Right Bicep link Wrote: [ -> ]If you're smoking a faggot, you're doing it very wrong.

These made me lawl.

Edit: I love that line, it's my sig now.
Sponson, I'm sure you'll get over it.

I can understand how the bitch was being bitchy, and how you sickly burned her, but I don't like the word faggot either.  Sad 

Of course I wouldn't go out of my way to be a bitch if I heard the word being used, I would just frown a little on the inside. 

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