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(03-23-2011, 08:44 PM)Dr. Zaius link Wrote: If you're going to teamstack, go to a pubbie server.
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(03-23-2011, 08:44 PM)Dr. Zaius link Wrote: If you're going to teamstack, go to a buddie server.
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Quote: Merc link=topic=2632.msg200409#msg200409 date=1300945905]
[quote author=Dr. Zaius link=topic=2632.msg200384#msg200384 date=1300931091]
If you're going to teamstack, go tf2lobby or scrimmage or get your own server
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Did I miss something? I was pretty sure the target sucks guys got the message, haven't seen them around in a while...


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(03-24-2011, 11:26 AM)Caffeine link Wrote: Did I miss something? I was pretty sure the target sucks guys got the message, haven't seen them around in a while...
I joined the server, then two sick shot buddies joined my team, then that attracted 5 pro players that they were friends with to join the team as well. ergo why its hard for me to play on the brb servers with out creating an inevitable stack.


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(03-24-2011, 12:18 PM)£1qµ1Ð link Wrote: [quote author=Caffeine link=topic=2632.msg200447#msg200447 date=1300983984]
Did I miss something? I was pretty sure the target sucks guys got the message, haven't seen them around in a while...
I joined the server, then two sick shot buddies joined my team, then that attracted 5 pro players that they were friends with to join the team as well. ergo why its hard for me to play on the brb servers with out creating an inevitable stack.
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Ah, yea, you could always just ask them to auto-assign  b)

I think most of us do anyway, I've always thought maybe a plug-in to force auto-assign might be nice, but then people might not be able to choose a particular team if they want to attack/defend first, or anti-stack if the random assignments make things really lopsided.


I could look into it if people are genuinely interested.


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If it becomes a chronic problem, install it, but like 95% of the time it's not an issue.

Actually, are you able to turn it on and off easily?  Like, leave it off, but if some dickwads come in and start stacking, you could turn it on for however long they're on the server.


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03-24-2011, 12:36 PM

or you could do: after team x wins y consecutive times, the server forces a scramble thus avoiding the auto assign problem and solving the stacking problem.


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(03-24-2011, 12:36 PM)£1qµ1Ð link Wrote: or you could do: after team x wins y consecutive times, the server forces a scramble thus avoiding the auto assign problem and solving the stacking problem.

I think that's a pretty fair compromise, if possible.


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(03-24-2011, 12:36 PM)£1qµ1Ð link Wrote: or you could do: after team x wins y consecutive times, the server forces a scramble thus avoiding the auto assign problem and solving the stacking problem.

I'll look into it, the problem can be a bit map specific though, for example Dustbowl if a team caps all 3 stages that's 6 points. But that doesn't take into account if it was a 5 minute roll or a 20 minute slugfest.

If I put a label in for just 'CP' maps, a 6-0 score would be reasonable on a dustbowl style map, but a score of 6-0 on something like granary or coldfront would be rage-quit zone for most players.


I'll take a bit of time to parse sourcemod's plugin repository tonight, if anyone else wants to link me to anything feel free to.


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(03-24-2011, 01:04 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: [quote author=£1qµ1Ð link=topic=2632.msg200456#msg200456 date=1300988204]
or you could do: after team x wins y consecutive times, the server forces a scramble thus avoiding the auto assign problem and solving the stacking problem.

I'll look into it, the problem can be a bit map specific though, for example Dustbowl if a team caps all 3 stages that's 6 points. But that doesn't take into account if it was a 5 minute roll or a 20 minute slugfest.

If I put a label in for just 'CP' maps, a 6-0 score would be reasonable on a dustbowl style map, but a score of 6-0 on something like granary or coldfront would be rage-quit zone for most players.


I'll take a bit of time to parse sourcemod's plugin repository tonight, if anyone else wants to link me to anything feel free to.
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Why take an exorbitantly simple task and make it so complex?


server.cfg: mp_scrambleteams_auto 1


cp_dustbowl.cfg: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 8

cp_granary: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 3

cp_coldfront: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 3

pl_goldrush.cfg: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 5


etc.


Why do no server admins ever bother using the tools valve gave us and run straight to SourceMOD? =/


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03-24-2011, 01:48 PM

Probably because they're not used to Valve giving them useful serverside features like that. Otherwise AdminMOD wouldn't exist in the first place ;x



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(03-24-2011, 01:36 PM)Kirby, the Spyro link Wrote: Why take an exorbitantly simple task and make it so complex?


server.cfg: mp_scrambleteams_auto 1


cp_dustbowl.cfg: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 8

cp_granary: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 3

cp_coldfront: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 3

pl_goldrush.cfg: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 5


etc.


Why do no server admins ever bother using the tools valve gave us and run straight to SourceMOD? =/


I actually didn't even know that existed....however, you want to repeat and make a map.cfg file for every one of the 80+ maps on the server, or even just like, the top 20 played customs?

At that point is when it starts to get into "god damnit why cant I just make one config file someone make a plugin" territory....


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(03-24-2011, 01:54 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: [quote author=Kirby, the Spyro link=topic=2632.msg200460#msg200460 date=1300991770]

Why take an exorbitantly simple task and make it so complex?


server.cfg: mp_scrambleteams_auto 1


cp_dustbowl.cfg: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 8

cp_granary: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 3

cp_coldfront: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 3

pl_goldrush.cfg: mp_scrambleteams_auto_windifference 5


etc.


Why do no server admins ever bother using the tools valve gave us and run straight to SourceMOD? =/


I actually didn't even know that existed....however, you want to repeat and make a map.cfg file for every one of the 80+ maps on the server, or even just like, the top 20 played customs?

At that point is when it starts to get into "god damnit why cant I just make one config file someone make a plugin" territory....
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I thought of that argument when I posted it, and came to this conclusion; you're still making that many entries *somewhere* - be it seperate .cfg's for every map we play, or in a text file that contains every map and it's specific winlimit threshold.


Also my bad, I thought everyone knew about map specific cfg's, it's been there since TFC.


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(03-24-2011, 04:08 PM)Kirby, the Spyro link Wrote: Also my bad, I thought everyone knew about map specific cfg's, it's been there since TFC.
True, but how long has that cvar been in there?



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(03-24-2011, 04:10 PM)at0m link Wrote: [quote author=Kirby, the Spyro link=topic=2632.msg200475#msg200475 date=1301000901]
Also my bad, I thought everyone knew about map specific cfg's, it's been there since TFC.
True, but how long has that cvar been in there?
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Mann-Co Update, didn't realize that could be what Caff was referring to, my bad.



(03-24-2011, 01:54 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: however, you want to repeat and make a map.cfg file for every one of the 80+ maps on the server, or even just like, the top 20 played customs?
Here's a map specific .cfg for every map we have on the server defaulting to winlimit of 4, modify for maps that need it as you see fit.  ;D



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(03-23-2011, 11:23 AM)Kirby, the Spyro link Wrote: So I'm playing DiRT 2 last night...




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(03-24-2011, 07:59 PM)Stein link Wrote: [quote author=Kirby, the Spyro link=topic=2632.msg200326#msg200326 date=1300897385]
So I'm playing DiRT 2 last night...




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(03-24-2011, 04:43 PM)Kirby, the Spyro link Wrote: [quote author=at0m link=topic=2632.msg200476#msg200476 date=1301001059]
[quote author=Kirby, the Spyro link=topic=2632.msg200475#msg200475 date=1301000901]
Also my bad, I thought everyone knew about map specific cfg's, it's been there since TFC.
True, but how long has that cvar been in there?
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Mann-Co Update, didn't realize that could be what Caff was referring to, my bad.



(03-24-2011, 01:54 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: however, you want to repeat and make a map.cfg file for every one of the 80+ maps on the server, or even just like, the top 20 played customs?
Here's a map specific .cfg for every map we have on the server defaulting to winlimit of 4, modify for maps that need it as you see fit.  ;D


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