I find the fact that you can't switch teams more than once per half hour or whatever pretty annoying, especially if someone says balance and four people switch so it's out of whack again. The only problem I had with the SO HARD (so gay) guys is that they refused to be on separate teams.
(03-09-2010, 11:46 AM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ]i'm not sure if we're talking about the same situation but i recall asking on vent like 5 times for the 5 brbu members to switch over when the teams were +4
Yea it is important that we take care of this problem ourselves until they fix it. Like I said I don't mind skill being unbalanced but when the numbers are very disproportionate for a long period of time it really makes the whole game go downhill. I've seen pretty rapid rolls on teams that had good players but were outmatched. What's worse is several times I've seen players switch from a small team to the large one because they were so frustrated.
saying "counter them by being less bad" is all well and good if not incredibly naive for the following reasons:
- there's something to be said for the lowest guy in their squad being rank 22 with the highest being 35 or 36ish  i forget
- not to mention the fact that all the guys that got kicked had played between 4 and 6 previous battlefield games (yes that's what the number in a square means)
- tf2 has been out for how many years? and still people are still terrible, still die to all the same gimmicks, and just generally make it easy for a small, organized group to walk all over them. bc2 is no different
now even ignoring all that, it's not so bad. I can even forgive the random spawn camping with C4 and tanks, because everybody feels a little evil once in a while. but with the huge player imbalance as a result of people leaving, refusal to play on separate teams (or even in separate squads), and giving responses to requests for team balance along the lines of "lol quit crying," the kick was definitely warranted simply on "don't be a dick" grounds. the guys weren't just good at the game, they knew exactly what they were doing and they didn't really give a crap that it was killing a server. at that point, any expected value you might have derived from their potential conversion to a forum-going member of the community plummets, so what's the fucking point of letting them run a decent set of games into the ground on account of principle?
all that said, i agree with what mission said (though for me I swear it would not allow me to change teams at least 3 maps in a row). cooldown on teamswitching is fucking retarded and just needs to be straight up removed. idk if there's a setting anywhere in the configs, but if someone can dig it out that would be an [u]IMMENSE help with the balance problem in general
(03-09-2010, 12:10 PM)Duck link Wrote: [ -> ]all that said, i agree with what mission said (though for me I swear it would not allow me to change teams at least 3 maps in a row). cooldown on teamswitching is fucking retarded and just needs to be straight up removed. idk if there's a setting anywhere in the configs, but if someone can dig it out that would be an [u]IMMENSE help with the balance problem in general
It's not one of the options I saw. Server tweaking is pretty damned limited, but I think that is going to change because of the amount of bitching going on. Either that or the game will mostly die in 2-3 months. I wish this game was released by ValveÂ
tbf, it's breaking about as frequently now as tf2 does every update
(03-09-2010, 12:12 PM)Surf314 link Wrote: [ -> ]I wish this game was released by ValveÂ
They may be evil but they know how to make a good game
lol
thread goes from "best game of all time"
to
"I miss TF2"
in like a page.
(03-09-2010, 12:41 PM)Duck link Wrote: [ -> ]only retards miss tf2
I uninstalled tf2 months ago and haven't looked back. hell this is the first fps I've played online in a long time
(03-09-2010, 12:41 PM)Duck link Wrote: [ -> ]only retards miss tf2
I miss how valve handles dedicated servers, this is pretty much the barest of bare bones, and to answer earlier questions, I have seen nothing in controllable cvars that allows me to autobalance teams
(03-09-2010, 01:01 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Duck link=topic=4267.msg140683#msg140683 date=1268156495]
only retards miss tf2
I miss how valve handles dedicated servers, this is pretty much the barest of bare bones, and to answer earlier questions, I have seen nothing in controllable cvars that allows me to autobalance teams
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This, Valve has the best dedicated server system around.
(03-09-2010, 01:26 PM)Surf314 link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Caffeine link=topic=4267.msg140687#msg140687 date=1268157707]
[quote author=Duck link=topic=4267.msg140683#msg140683 date=1268156495]
only retards miss tf2
I miss how valve handles dedicated servers, this is pretty much the barest of bare bones, and to answer earlier questions, I have seen nothing in controllable cvars that allows me to autobalance teams
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This, Valve has the best dedicated server system/anti-cheat/user interface/game engine around.
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