If they aren't collecting data for TF3 then they are retarded. I honestly think we are all beta testers for some of their crazy ideas concerning micro-transactions, adding more social depth to gameplay, and customization. The fact that people are paying for it is just funding their research.
(12-27-2010, 06:25 AM)Caffeine link Wrote: [ -> ]I'm more worried about what Atom mentioned, that now they'll have more pressure to put out more content faster. I was quite fine with the class packs, which was a pack every 2 - 4 months, now it seems like every 2 - 4 weeks they drop a new patch with a boat load of new stuff. There's absolutely no way you can properly test that for balance.
Newsflash: in my hat scenario, #2 & #3 have already happened/are happening. WTF do you think Crates are?
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[quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189678#msg189678 date=1293437613]
Everything after the heavy update has been downhill for me. Kind of why I was looking forward to the beta, but now lots of people have the new unlocks. Shame too, the vanilla-style gameplay felt reallly balanced to me.
which unlocks are horribly balanced
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Shortstop, Degreaser, and Bushwaka are my picks.
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C'mon. And the Dead Ringer.
(12-26-2010, 10:32 PM)Karth link Wrote: [ -> ]oh for gods sake, this game isn't the same anymore. 
agreed thoroughly
i wish we could go back to the simple days sometimes
(12-27-2010, 01:44 PM)geoff link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189640#msg189640 date=1293420773]
oh for gods sake, this game isn't the same anymore.
agreed thoroughly
i wish we could go back to the simple days sometimes
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I'm about 90% sure there's Pure servers out there. They got to be running a game mod to make that happen.
I think people are too quick to forget that the game was always about flavour and not taking itself seriously. Sort of like me. 8)
(12-27-2010, 02:07 PM)Kor link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=geoff link=topic=206.msg189755#msg189755 date=1293475467]
[quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189640#msg189640 date=1293420773]
oh for gods sake, this game isn't the same anymore.
agreed thoroughly
i wish we could go back to the simple days sometimes
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I'm about 90% sure there's Pure servers out there. They got to be running a game mod to make that happen.
I think people are too quick to forget that the game was always about flavour and not taking itself seriously. Sort of like me. Â 8)
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This.
The beta is still up if we want to revive Serious Business Saturdays too
yeah idk, its not like they have added gem sockets yet, its just new weps dudes. most people use a vanilla loadout because 9 times out of 10 it's objectively better than unlocks
(12-27-2010, 02:47 PM)diglett link Wrote: [ -> ]yeah idk, its not like they have added gem sockets yet, its just new weps dudes. most people use a vanilla loadout because 9 times out of 10 it's objectively better than unlocks
I wanna socket my minigun and sandvich
WTT 200 SoJ for defiant spartan
I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
(12-27-2010, 11:29 PM)Karth link Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
Then just use the old weps.
(12-28-2010, 12:08 AM)Didzo link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189837#msg189837 date=1293510587]
I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
Then just use the old weps.
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I think you're missing the point, Didzo.
(12-28-2010, 01:17 AM)Spore link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Didzo link=topic=206.msg189841#msg189841 date=1293512904]
[quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189837#msg189837 date=1293510587]
I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
Then just use the old weps.
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I think you're missing the point, Didzo.
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Karf is just upset because the kids won't get off his lawn.
(12-27-2010, 11:29 PM)Karth link Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
Besides the shortstop, everything's perfectly balanced. The only non-standard stuff besides the luger I use are the other melees, so imma talk about that. The sandman is perfect for giving yourself a second or two to attack when you're unable to flank at the cost of 15 hp (which is the difference between surviving a point blank rocket or not), the basher is the perfect "high risk/high reward" weapon, and the candy cane is perfect in maps where medkits are tight at the cost of getting gibbed by explosions easier.
Subject: Scoot Melee Balance
Verdict: Perfect!
As for the other crap, meh.
(12-27-2010, 11:29 PM)Karth link Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
I love soldiers who have banners, it means they don't carry shotguns
(12-28-2010, 04:37 AM)backfire link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189837#msg189837 date=1293510587]
I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
Besides the shortstop, everything's perfectly balanced. The only non-standard stuff besides the luger I use are the other melees, so imma talk about that. The sandman is perfect for giving yourself a second or two to attack when you're unable to flank at the cost of 15 hp (which is the difference between surviving a point blank rocket or not), the basher is the perfect "high risk/high reward" weapon, and the candy cane is perfect in maps where medkits are tight at the cost of getting gibbed by explosions easier.
Subject: Scoot Melee Balance
Verdict: Perfect!
As for the other crap, meh.
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Agreed.
The same could be said for the Ullapool Caber. High risk/High reward.
(12-27-2010, 11:29 PM)Karth link Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
Wahhh, I can customize my loadout to compliment my specific playstyle, wahh.
b)
(12-28-2010, 10:05 AM)Kirby, the Ghost of Kritzmas Past link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189837#msg189837 date=1293510587]
I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
Wahhh, I can customize my loadout to compliment my specific playstyle, wahh.
b)
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Fuck your degreaser
(12-28-2010, 11:43 AM)Benito link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Kirby, the Ghost of Kritzmas Past link=topic=206.msg189868#msg189868 date=1293548737]
[quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189837#msg189837 date=1293510587]
I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
Wahhh, I can customize my loadout to compliment my specific playstyle, wahh.
b)
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Fuck your degreaser
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Degreaser is op. Give it the old airblast system, slower cycle, more ammo, and it would be fine, I think.
(12-28-2010, 12:22 PM)Hobospartan link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Benito link=topic=206.msg189876#msg189876 date=1293554598]
[quote author=Kirby, the Ghost of Kritzmas Past link=topic=206.msg189868#msg189868 date=1293548737]
[quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189837#msg189837 date=1293510587]
I'm just sick of the new weapons in general, the new spy weps, the swords, buff banners, scout stuff, etc. It feels really cluttered.
Wahhh, I can customize my loadout to compliment my specific playstyle, wahh.
b)
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Fuck your degreaser
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Degreaser is op. Give it the old airblast system, slower cycle, more ammo, and it would be fine, I think.
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Indeed, the old airblast system that ate through ammo would make it a nice sidegrade. Or perhaps reducing the afterburn even more, so it promotes the puff and sting method.