(08-09-2010, 07:07 AM)Tim link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=PyroZombie link=topic=206.msg168245#msg168245 date=1281319182]
[quote author=Duck link=topic=206.msg168046#msg168046 date=1281207088]
I know you just started gaming on a PC and all PyroZombie, but learn your fucking roots man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Software
and if you still don't get it, watch this
http://www.fragmovie.com/
I know of Id's accomplishments, and I've seen the videos, but I've also played quake multiplayer through quake live. Don't think I don't know anything just because I'm "new" to the scene. I watch many things, and I learn from them. Quake's strength comes from heavy popularity, and an over-the top fanbase, but it certainly doesn't mean it's a game compared to the new games of today. The love of the old games just comes from nostalgia, and from the evolution from that to newer breeds of games, so is it better game to tf2? No, It's insane to say that, but is Quake responsible for TF2? Of course, and I love Id for making it because of that but from a straight logical standpoint, the best games are the newer ones that take the great parts of the old and the creator's own great ideas and meshes them into a better game.
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yes clearly tf2 with its terrible hitboxes and netcode is far far superior to quake. i mean who wants a game that actually registers shots correctly and has perfect weapon balance right? and forget about actually having to use sound and think about where your opponent may be that sounds stupid why would anyone ever want that when you can play 32 man dustbowl as a pyro or engy
youre one of those retards who thinks graphics = good arent you
anyone that movie or book whatever it was where they can tell who is going to be a criminal and arrest them before commiting the crime? i wish we could do that with abortion to prevent this level of retardedness from coming into the world
[/quote]I'm goint to attack this how someone would tackle an obstacle course, part by part, then I will get back on track.
Yes TF2, but it is why more balanced then quake goes. Quake, someone new to the game stands as much chance as a boy in the middle of the ocean. If you don't know where the weapons are your fucked, if you don't know how to use the methods, your fucked, and if you think your have a chance against people playing since the original Quake III was out your fucked,AND retarded. To say Quake is balance is stupefying. how can a game where a race to a weapon spawn ultimate be balanced? Of course, you might not be saying Quake is balanced. Then I invite you, say what is more balanced then a game where it is constantly under scrutiny by it's makers? I have never seen something like TF2 when it comes to patches, and updates, and promotions. Most games in the past that were broken, stayed broken. You get these broken elements fixed on a monthly basis, which is a hell of a lot more then games back in the day, yet again driving my point home. Don't bring your own class-bias-ism into this either. I'm not mentioning anything as small as one class flaw here, not anyone of the classes I've been pissed off by, because I know there is a simple way to counter them. The heavy? Spy, Sniper, Crit Rocket, list goes on. Soldier? Pyro, Demo, Spy. Scout? Tricking him around a corner. Will their always be a problem? Yes! Of course! But your a fucking wackjob for saying there shouldn't, because it isn't possible for a flawless game and it is immature and stupid to ask for anything to be perfect. But a game that's constantly modified has a better chance of it happening then some left back in time.
And no, as a matter of fact, I'm not. I fucking berate people who would rather play a shined up shit, rather then a Diamond in the Rough. My brother is one of those people, and I cannot stand his taste in games. For the example of games I still play that don't match up graphically with it's competitor, Look up Fire Pro Wrestling Returns, It's a pixilated 2-D wrestling game made by a company that has made this brand of game for years. It is the best wrestling game out now or later. The Computer logic is brilliant, The create system is massive and It has features that will never see the light of day again in a wrestling game. This came out for the PlayStation 2, but it is better then any wrestling game on a next gen console. I have not bought any new wrestling games since I bought this, because it will not match up, and it's about the game-play, not on how good it looks. Know me, before you go slinging shit that isn't true.
That is that. Un-derail this thread, Frank.