12-23-2015, 04:05 AM
(12-22-2015, 02:07 PM)FlyingMongoose Wrote: [ -> ][spoiler]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/40-unforgivable-plot-holes-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens_b_8850324.html this is entertaining[/spoiler]
One of my biggest pet peeves is people using the phrase "plot hole" when it's not a plot hole. A plot hole is something in the story that happens SPECIFICALLY against the logic of the film, such as showing a vampire shot with bullets who is unphased and then later killing the same vampire with the same bullets. If your complaint is "Why don't the just buy a gun to kill the guy instead of using a sword", that's bad writing, not a plot hole.
Literally half of these aren't even inconsistencies, it's just the author nitpicking certain choices. Like, christ, you're allowed to complain about a movie just don't fucking say it's a plot hole if you don't even know what a fucking plot hole is. Not to mention it doesn't even seem like the author saw the movie
[spoiler]Just because I'm a pedantic asshole who has way too much time, I'll take a couple of points here:
- On the point about Kylo Ren not using the force during his fight. Well, yeah. The force is a fickle thing. Nobody truly understands it aside from Jedi Masters. And Ren and Ray ain't no jedi masters. Also "None of this stops Kylo Ren from designing and building his own, completely impractical cross-barred lightsaber." I guess they're ignoring the part where Ren fucking burns Finn with the "impractical" lightsaber hilt.
- 8. It's okay that Poe survived a Tie Fighter crash; after all, so did Finn.But has any film ever cared less about (a) giving the false impression a character has died, and then (b) having that character show up later with no one being surprised by it? Even Finn doesn't seem to care very much what the explanation is.
...what? Finn doesn't care? I guess running to him and hugging him after screaming his name and asking him how he survived counts as not caring.
- 13. Really? Was there no previous order Finn had ever refused to execute?
they mention in the goddamn movie it was his first mission.
- Ren immediately exclaims to himself, "Solo!" Yet a few minutes later, when Ren is just twenty feet from Solo, he can't detect him
yeah he's sensing him he's not a fucking GPS.
- 24. Rey says that the Millennium Falcon is "garbage" and hasn't been flown in many, many years. Indeed, it's such junk, in her view, that she won't even board it when she's about to be ripped to pieces by twenty Tie Fighters. Then she gets on board and it basically flies perfectly. So much so that it's not at all clear why no one has been flying it, let alone why its owner (Unkar Plutt) hasn't tried to sell it at any point over the past dozen years -- despite the fact that Plutt appears to live in a hovel.
This would actually be a legit point if it wasn't for the fact in EVERY Star Wars movie the Falcon is referred to like a piece of junk. It's a space hot-rod put together with spare parts Solo scavenged over his many years as a smuggler and cheater. It breaks down often, it has outdated guns that have to be operated manually, it has a terrible shape and design that is impractical to fly. It's something the fans seem to forget about just by being blinded by "OMG IT'S THE FALCON THE BEST SHIP EVER"
- 29. Who trained Rey to fight with a staff as effectively as she does
Well gee she couldn't have possibly picked up the skills over the years
- 34. How do the Rathtars on Han's freighter get loose?
Look, I'm not one of those people...but did they fucking watch the movie? Were they on their phone? Did they not see the part where the doors open, the Rathtars get loose, and Rey says "Wrong Fuse"? Like fuck it I'm done at this point.
I HATE clickbait articles like these. They're shittily written and done for a quick fan rage while simultaenously putting some of the worst fucking criticisms you could give against a movie like this. And don't mistake me for some blind fan, The Force Awakens has its issues, but these are absolutely pathetic and a waste of space.
Christ.
Anyhow.
The Force Awakens Spoilers:
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I was real nervous about going to see this, but I'm pretty satisfied with the result. A certain childlike joy was on my face once the closing credits hit, and I was thinking to myself "Oh man, I hope the next one is good too!"
There were a lot of small changes to the universe which I liked, such as Storm Troopers not being useless anymore, the idea these struggling forces still at war, despite the both of them being well past their prime, and all those goddamn practical effects. Beautiful. And BB-8. Because they knew everyone was going to love him and he's the most goddamn cool thing since that one white-and-blue trash can on wheels.
Like I said before, it's not without its problems. The pacing of the first act is not great. It takes what feels like an hour to get off Jakku and is WELL past the point of introducing our characters. I do think they tried to do a bit too much, as we have to balance on 3 separate plot lines at once all within the first half-hour, compared to Star Wars where there was really only one at a time during the first act. Something I was afraid of also made it into the movie. JJ is notorious for nostalgia baiting (I mean, he made an entire movie about nostalgia baiting called Super 8), and it's no surprise there's quite a bit of pandering here. Some of it is welcome, such as the falcon, but when we see the space chess from A New Hope pop up for no other reason than "Hey, remember this from Episode 4?" is annoying. I spotted this type of stuff every so often during the movie.
That and the fact they made a "biggerer and betterer" death star kind of made me roll my eyes. Like...no one noticed that a fucking planet got hollowed out? I mean...how long does it take to build something like that? How the hell did it stay secret? But, whatever, it happened.
Overall though, I think JJ and company did a great job. I'm hoping they don't try to copy the original trilogy too much, as I think everyone wants a NEW star wars, not the last one with better effects.
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I'd recommend The Force Awakens to just about anyone and I was pretty dern satisfied with it. But...oh man, with Rian Johnson at the director's chair for Episode VIII, I'm not sure if they can keep it up. Here's hoping for the best.