(05-17-2012, 08:45 PM)LT Crow link Wrote: [ -> ]8)
So, the app process for a position I applied for required providing a facebook or linkdin page, which I, ofcourse, did not provide. Despite this I'm now in "round 2" and I get to tell the HR troll that she can see my facebook page when we're actually friends. There are some arguments I absolutely itch to get into to, this is going to be fun.
A lot of places are in the process of making it illegal to ask for this, linkedin I might consider providing a link to since is a "professional" profile, but facebook? Be a cold day in hell when you get a link to it.
Facebook helped me find the one guy who was cool to me in high school. That's what it's for. Not for HR trolls to snoop through. If they want to know something, they can ask it to your face. And you can ask them to put it in writing before you answer.
On a related note, start denying Facebook friend requests from hot girls with names you don't recognize; you're going to get a couple this week, asking to be let into your intimate friend groups.
I never understood employers who asked for passwords. I never understood why dumbasses actually gave them passwords either.
Also, if you just set your privacy settings for certain groups of people, you can make your posts to your friends and then throw all the other people in to another container (List I believe in fbook)
That's what never makes sense to me. Tell a drunk story to a coworker at work, everyone laughs including the boss. Boss sees photos of a drunk story on Facebook, your ass is in the can. There's a reason why it's called work and play. You're professional at work, and a dumbass at home. As long as play doesn't cross into work you're good! The day I get fired over something I said/did on Facebook, is the day I'm suing for sexual harassment.
(05-18-2012, 12:52 AM)Azure_Angel link Wrote: [ -> ]That's what never makes sense to me. Tell a drunk story to a coworker at work, everyone laughs including the boss. Boss sees photos of a drunk story on Facebook, your ass is in the can. There's a reason why it's called work and play. You're professional at work, and a dumbass at home. As long as play doesn't cross into work you're good! The day I get fired over something I said/did on Facebook, is the day I'm suing for sexual harassment.
I can understand if you're part of PR for a big company or something, but that's probably not the case 99 percent of the time.
(05-18-2012, 01:03 AM)zaneyard link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Azure_Angel link=topic=3603.msg245523#msg245523 date=1337320351]
That's what never makes sense to me. Tell a drunk story to a coworker at work, everyone laughs including the boss. Boss sees photos of a drunk story on Facebook, your ass is in the can. There's a reason why it's called work and play. You're professional at work, and a dumbass at home. As long as play doesn't cross into work you're good! The day I get fired over something I said/did on Facebook, is the day I'm suing for sexual harassment.
I can understand if you're part of PR for a big company or something, but that's probably not the case 99 percent of the time.
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Some jobs you have to put on a certain public persona. Unfortunately with the job I'm going into I think I have to make it appear like I don't know what fun is. Same with the wife.
(05-18-2012, 08:19 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=zaneyard link=topic=3603.msg245524#msg245524 date=1337321003]
[quote author=Azure_Angel link=topic=3603.msg245523#msg245523 date=1337320351]
That's what never makes sense to me. Tell a drunk story to a coworker at work, everyone laughs including the boss. Boss sees photos of a drunk story on Facebook, your ass is in the can. There's a reason why it's called work and play. You're professional at work, and a dumbass at home. As long as play doesn't cross into work you're good! The day I get fired over something I said/did on Facebook, is the day I'm suing for sexual harassment.
I can understand if you're part of PR for a big company or something, but that's probably not the case 99 percent of the time.
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Some jobs you have to put on a certain public persona. Unfortunately with the job I'm going into I think I have to make it appear like I don't know what fun is. Same with the wife.
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Surf, just put some pictures up on facebook of you and your "boyfriend" and gladly show them. If you don't get the job, sue for discrimination. It's an issue that wouldn't come up during a non-invasive interview process, but by prying deeper the people who are supposed to be shielding a company from this are greatly increasing their liability.Â
"oh, by checking my facebook you see I have a disable member of my household who will make demands on my time that will keep be from being available 24/7. Obviously, you failed to select me for this position because of that. I'm going to sue you."
"oh, by checking my facebook you see I'm in a biracial relationship. Obviously, you failed to select me for this position because of that. I'm going to sue you."
"oh, by checking my facebook you see I have an obsession with body pillows. Obviously, you failed to select me for this position because of that. I'm going to sue you"
oh, and I just got an email for "round 3" lol.
Proving discrimination on any of those grounds is insanely difficult, because you don't have records for what they accessed or saw while they were logged in.
They're good about not providing a reason, at least in California; they just never call you back or they can say "you just didn't fit our needs, we went with someone else"
On Topic: I got new games to kill zombies with! Meet me in the DayZ thread.
or just make your profile permissions that which no one can view your information if you're not friends with them
don't accept friend requests from those you don't know
train monkeys to joust
profit
(05-18-2012, 08:44 AM)at0m link Wrote: [ -> ]Proving discrimination on any of those grounds is insanely difficult, because you don't have records for what they accessed or saw while they were logged in.
Actually I would think just the opposite, even if they only look at your front page, it should be assumed they scrubbed every page, every like, every picture, and every status.
At least as a juror, this is what I would assume of a company doing due diligence.
(05-18-2012, 08:26 AM)LT Crow link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Surf314 link=topic=3603.msg245530#msg245530 date=1337347141]
[quote author=zaneyard link=topic=3603.msg245524#msg245524 date=1337321003]
[quote author=Azure_Angel link=topic=3603.msg245523#msg245523 date=1337320351]
That's what never makes sense to me. Tell a drunk story to a coworker at work, everyone laughs including the boss. Boss sees photos of a drunk story on Facebook, your ass is in the can. There's a reason why it's called work and play. You're professional at work, and a dumbass at home. As long as play doesn't cross into work you're good! The day I get fired over something I said/did on Facebook, is the day I'm suing for sexual harassment.
I can understand if you're part of PR for a big company or something, but that's probably not the case 99 percent of the time.
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Some jobs you have to put on a certain public persona. Unfortunately with the job I'm going into I think I have to make it appear like I don't know what fun is. Same with the wife.
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Surf, just put some pictures up on facebook of you and your "boyfriend" and gladly show them. If you don't get the job, sue for discrimination. It's an issue that wouldn't come up during a non-invasive interview process, but by prying deeper the people who are supposed to be shielding a company from this are greatly increasing their liability.Â
"oh, by checking my facebook you see I have a disable member of my household who will make demands on my time that will keep be from being available 24/7. Obviously, you failed to select me for this position because of that. I'm going to sue you."
"oh, by checking my facebook you see I'm in a biracial relationship. Obviously, you failed to select me for this position because of that. I'm going to sue you."
"oh, by checking my facebook you see I have an obsession with body pillows. Obviously, you failed to select me for this position because of that. I'm going to sue you"
oh, and I just got an email for "round 3" lol.
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Sometimes having one or all of that benefits you. The producer I worked for at MTV welcomed the fact that I was bisexual and was dating a girl. It "looked good on paper for the company."
(05-18-2012, 10:54 AM)Caffeine link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=at0m link=topic=3603.msg245535#msg245535 date=1337348697]
Proving discrimination on any of those grounds is insanely difficult, because you don't have records for what they accessed or saw while they were logged in.
Actually I would think just the opposite, even if they only look at your front page, it should be assumed they scrubbed every page, every like, every picture, and every status.
At least as a juror, this is what I would assume of a company doing due diligence.
[/quote]Then I can assume, since you live in Illinois, that you know EVERY SINGLE person in the state, and are therefore an accessory to robbery/murder/somethingelsethatwillputyouinprison since you know all of those criminals. Same kind of logic, and it wouldn't fly in a courtroom, its not conclusive enough to put someone in jail or get an award out of them.
(05-18-2012, 11:40 AM)at0m link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Caffeine link=topic=3603.msg245540#msg245540 date=1337356498]
[quote author=at0m link=topic=3603.msg245535#msg245535 date=1337348697]
Proving discrimination on any of those grounds is insanely difficult, because you don't have records for what they accessed or saw while they were logged in.
Actually I would think just the opposite, even if they only look at your front page, it should be assumed they scrubbed every page, every like, every picture, and every status.
At least as a juror, this is what I would assume of a company doing due diligence.
[/quote]Then I can assume, since you live in Illinois, that you know EVERY SINGLE person in the state, and are therefore an accessory to robbery/murder/somethingelsethatwillputyouinprison since you know all of those criminals. Same kind of logic, and it wouldn't fly in a courtroom, its not conclusive enough to put someone in jail or get an award out of them.
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Logic doesn't follow, in my example, I am asking for access to your personal information to monitor you or otherwise do a background check.
In your example, you're assuming that my proximity to someone else either via living near them or by being a 'member' on the same site, I am privy to their personal lives and have a mandate to investigate them.
If you gave me a set of keys to every house in Illinois and told me to check all of them for potential criminals and (assuming it was physically possible to check every residence, and I have a photographic memory for what I find in them), then I should be privy to all of the details of their personal lives through the data I would collect rummaging through their homes.
I would expect HR to have some kind of form for documenting what they found on the page, and to produce some kind of report for the hiring manager.
Rambling!
So I've been told by more than one or two of my ex'es that I've got really long and awesome eyelashes, one of them had an almost fetish for taking an eyelash curler to them (Whatever makes her happy, right?) and I've been told by even more that there's something about my eyes that's hard to not stare at, and I think I just figured it out.
I've got a head cold that's so bad I'm pretty sure I've got 7 gallons of snot stuck in my head, and I'm sneezing and blowing my nose so much that I've now filled 3 plastic shopping bags with used Kleenex. Out of idle curiosity I grabbed a small mirror to see just how bloodshot my eyes are from sneezing so much, when I noticed a bunch of little brown spots and flecks in my Iris.
Turns out I've got all kinds of
Brushfield Spots in both eyes that I've never noticed before. Pretty neat looking actually.
(05-18-2012, 11:02 PM)HeK link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=«(''«) link=topic=3603.msg245596#msg245596 date=1337395864]
Turns out I've got all kinds of Brushfield Spots in both eyes that I've never noticed before. Pretty neat looking actually.
Quote:These spots are normal in children (Kunkmann-Wolffian bodies) but are also a feature of the chromosomal disorder Down syndrome. They occur in 35â78% of newborn infants with Down syndrome.
Um....
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I figured versus or zane would have made that post, but not you.
But it's a good thing I stopped being considered a child quite some time ago, and my cousin Robert is the one who unfortunately got stuck with Down syndrome, I just get neat little colored flecks in my Iris.
No one on brb.u can resist a good downie joke.